Second ethernet connection

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blairm

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#103124 30-May-2012 21:52

Hi,

At present, I have a wired connection to a computer in the lounge. I'm turning one of my spare rooms into a gaming/media room, and I also want a wired connection there.

Is there any way to do this other than running a cable from the router in the lounge to the computer in the spare room?

If not, what sort of cost is involved in getting someone in to put in a wired connection that people won't trip over? I lack the time and probably the ability to attempt it myself.

Straight-line distance between the rooms would be about 15m.

Blair

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#632943 30-May-2012 22:04

Would be good to know what town/city you live in. There a few people of geekzone that may be able to help you out themselves

blairm

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#632946 30-May-2012 22:07

Living in Dunedin.

loganjames

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#632953 30-May-2012 22:21

You can get these cool "Ethernet over power" devices.

http://www.belkin.com/au/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=593045

You'll need 2, one that plugs in to a regular power socket next to your router and connected via Ethernet.

The second in a power socket in the games room with another ether net cable out.

They transmit data over existing copper power lines in your home. Real easy to setup and pretty good. Belkin and D-Link both make them and most shops like Harvey Norman have them.

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#632977 30-May-2012 22:53

loganjames: You can get these cool "Ethernet over power" devices.

http://www.belkin.com/au/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=593045

You'll need 2, one that plugs in to a regular power socket next to your router and connected via Ethernet.

The second in a power socket in the games room with another ether net cable out.

They transmit data over existing copper power lines in your home. Real easy to setup and pretty good. Belkin and D-Link both make them and most shops like Harvey Norman have them.

Yea these are probably best if you are only running one device. However they may struggle to meet line speed once you get UFB. They are also much cheaper on websites like Ascent then Harvey Norman,

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blairm

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#632981 30-May-2012 23:00

Have done some reading on the ethernet over power connections and reviews seem mixed - concerned the connection won't be good enough for gaming.
Does anyone have any experience of these connections and their gaming performance? I'm not a hard core gamer but don't want a poor connection to get in the way of things.

Blair

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#632998 30-May-2012 23:47

blairm: Have done some reading on the ethernet over power connections and reviews seem mixed - concerned the connection won't be good enough for gaming.
Does anyone have any experience of these connections and their gaming performance? I'm not a hard core gamer but don't want a poor connection to get in the way of things.

Blair

In my limited use I have found them OK was streaming a movie over the line. It all comes back to your wiring in the house. rated up to 500Mbps

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#633001 30-May-2012 23:52

Homeplugs are fine for gaming.

You can get the 200mbit ones which are super fast when they are close together (5m) but as you move them apart, the speed will drop up to about 250m
So over 15m, you might see 100mbit. The speed drops off very fast over the first 10 metres, then drops at a slower rate per metre thereafter.
If you move house, you can take them with you.

I use them alot and they are wonderful. Specifically I like the mini tp-link ones. We have rural households who have their broadband radio dish on a detached garage or farmshed so they have line of sight to a transmitter (if the house roof doesnt), and then we use a homeplug set to bring the ethernet signal into their house to their router for wifi distribution, or to another homeplug & router to extend the wifi range.

One tip though - plug them directly into the wall rather than a 4-way board. The wiring quality of those 4way boards helps reduce their speed.

The HomePNA group who design the standard have designed the 200mbit+ standard to be a solution for cable tv over fibre. In the states, cable networks now deliver their tv service over ip/fibre. So the homeplug people thought they would be a really good way to take the video stream from the ETP on the side of the house to the various TV's and settop boxes around the house without needing to run cat5.

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blairm

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#633004 31-May-2012 00:09

raytaylor: Homeplugs are fine for gaming....

I use them alot and they are wonderful. Specifically I like the mini tp-link ones. We have rural households who have their broadband radio dish on a detached garage or farmshed so they have line of sight to a transmitter (if the house roof doesnt), and then we use a homeplug set to bring the ethernet signal into their house to their router for wifi distribution, or to another homeplug & router to extend the wifi range.

One tip though - plug them directly into the wall rather than a 4-way board. The wiring quality of those 4way boards helps reduce their speed.

The HomePNA group who design the standard have designed the 200mbit+ standard to be a solution for cable tv over fibre. In the states, cable networks now deliver their tv service over ip/fibre. So the homeplug people thought they would be a really good way to take the video stream from the ETP on the side of the house to the various TV's and settop boxes around the house without needing to run cat5.

These sound perfect... are they readily available? Did a quick Google for mini tp-link and all I'm getting at things that look like t-sticks - is there meant to be a unit that plugs into a power point? Haven't seen one in the search results.

Blair

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#633005 31-May-2012 00:13

http://www.priceme.co.nz/TP-LINK-TL-PA211KIT/p-885395219.aspx

http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=777985

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#633006 31-May-2012 00:16

Its like a wall wart transformer.
You plug it into the wall, and then plug your ethernet cable into the bottom of it.

At the other end, you plug your ethernet cable in exactly the same way, and it uses the mains wiring of the house as your cable inbetween the two points - sorry if i didnt make this clear.

The devices are typically called homeplug adaptors and the actual standard is called HomePNA. Like how 802.11g/n is a standard, HomePNA v1,2,3 are standards of homeplug adaptors. Though inter-brand compatibility doesnt seem to be standardised yet unlike wifi.

Here are some links

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?searchType=all&searchString=homeplug&type=Search&generalSearch_keypresses=8&generalSearch_suggested=0

I wont give you any more links - i see trademe has a twin pack of the tp-link mini ones for $130 which is a good price.

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#633008 31-May-2012 00:25

Guess my Google skills aren't as good as I thought...

Thanks everyone, think that's the way forward.

Cheers,

Blair

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#633042 31-May-2012 07:49

If it helps....we bought this about a month ago: http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=16110

It is working great, they're about 15m apart and are operating at about 80mbs - 100mbs.

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#634476 2-Jun-2012 01:17

Where does the "wired" connection in the lounge run to? does the wire connect to a central panel anywhere or are you just talking about a phone line that goes to other rooms as well?

Time to find a new industry!

blairm

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#634479 2-Jun-2012 01:48

Sorry, should have been clearer; when referring to a wired connection wired I was just differentiating from wireless; in this case it's just a router connected to a phone socket.

Blair

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#634502 2-Jun-2012 08:33

I've been using the D-Link Powerline AV 500s for about 6 weeks between my office and lounge and works great. Highly recommend.

As @raytaylor said you should plug directly into the wall. From my experience I had no joy trying to use them via a multibox.

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