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#114375 17-Feb-2013 21:15
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For our new two storeyed flat.
Currently there are no setup, still figuring out and doing our homework before buying the kit which suits our needs.

5 people in the flat and most of them are heavy users.
So need a setup which will provide decent speeds upstairs as well.
Big chunk of usage will be coming from p2p and usenet servers, we already have our ISP sorted with a big data plan.

Could you please help me decide on which way to go?

1. Ubiquiti  AirRouter. 
Believe it can run OpenWRT but the Ubiquiti firmware I think is solid enough
802.11n so nice and fast 

$83 from Go Wireless

But not sure if the firmware is upgradeable and able to run custom third party stuff such as dd wrt.

2. Was recommended WRT54GL flashed with Tomato or DD-WRT but seems a little old school and did a bit of digging around and came with option 3

3. Asus N16u with 3 removable antennas but $200. The Ubiquiti doesn't have removable antennas but says it is commercial standard and the in built one is pretty much the bomb and the ubiquiti is about $85 which is a lot cheaper.

Things going for Asu RT-N16 with Toastman's Tomato firmware - Print, file and media server, gigabit, wireless N, grunty as specs so will never fall over under heavy load. Apparently if you have QoS setup, browsing never slows down if someone else downloading, and it meters the amount of traffic every PC on the network uses <<<<----IS THIS POSSIBLE? without having to install third party software on each and every devices accessing the network??

Downside: Not sure if Ubiquiti air router can do everything this one does for less than half the price.

4. Just buy a decent cheap adsl2+ wifi n modem router and either replace the antennas with high power ones or use repeaters? - I'm not sure which repeaters to go for if this option wins.


Now the main purpose of the setup is to have full speed ADSL2+ downloads, I do understand I wouldn't need a very expensive set up for this to happen, but the reason why I'm on here is because the modem/router will have to be set up in the lounge downstairs and 3 out of 5 people are living upstairs and I fear the signal could drop a lot.

I am not planning to run hard drives and use it over wifi a lot. All I want to do is get full download speeds of ADSL2 all day considering few of us could also be downloading.

You are most welcome to disregard all of the above given options and suggest new ones.

In a nutshell - things looking to achieve

-Set up which allows full ADSL2 download speeds upstairs, only 2 or 3 people will be downloading at same time but they happened to be upstairs so would like to have least droppings in speed.

-Able to monitor each device data usage - qOs apparently does this, could someone chip in?

-Hardware which supports p2p, usenet and doesn't require to turn off and on every few hours!! (dynalink on slingshot)

- Also please suggest a modem or modem router which does all this. If you think about it.

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  #763927 17-Feb-2013 22:14
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and this one looks like the most latest 2013 model and only diffrence I could see is the addition of a usb port - handy for sure and price difference is about $20 -

Reviews say they are built good etc plus it has removable antennas so if the signals aren't strong enough then migh think of replacing them.


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  #763968 18-Feb-2013 07:54
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Hi, do you really really need all those features, they are nice but really?

Anyway I wont necessarily recommend gear itself but a topology most certainly. I recommend you use two devices, an ADSL2+ modem/WAP as the gateway and run a cable to the top floor and run a 2nd AP (could be a router in NAT bypass or layer2 bridge).

Dont use a repeater as it halves throughput to that AP.



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  #763969 18-Feb-2013 07:58
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Hey thanks
Running  additional cables is out of question sadly :( fussy flatmates
Your suggestion, just repeating and making sure i got it right, have a normal adsl2 wireless modem router in the lounge an run a cable upstairs and plug in a router, is that right?

Instead of running a cable, would this work? -

I really am trying to get my head around and can't see how you can get internet through power line!! - from all the reading what I could gather was it could be an alternative to running cables?

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  #763978 18-Feb-2013 08:39
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Air Router WiFi coverage is pretty average - which isn't surprising for a unit with small internal antennas.

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  #764034 18-Feb-2013 10:57
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As Cyril said, Get a Modem/Router and then run a separate access point. It is always going to be a case of you get what you pay for though.

I would go for something like a Ubiquiti Pico station. Only a b/g unit but will suffice for what you are doing. Big file transfers shouldnt be done via Wifi anyway and if you are trying to push through a bunch of walls you aren't going to be reaching n speeds anyway.

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  #764041 18-Feb-2013 11:11
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This seperate AP,
How exactly would I do it? Would I need to lay cabling or the network powerline adapters suffice?

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  #764061 18-Feb-2013 11:36
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Hi, I would really recommend you put in a cable, while EOP does work, it can be flaky and not ever my recommended approach. A $20 cable (plus install) will alway beat an active method any day.



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  #764129 18-Feb-2013 12:52
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Just re-read your first post and saw the 'monitor data usage' bit. You are going to want something that Open WRT can be loaded on to and therefore Gargoyle can loaded. By far the best quota management available for home users.
The WRT54GL is a good option but is pretty old in today's terms. The Asus N16 would be a really good choice. I would then see how the good the wireless is a make a decision on whether you need another WAP.

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