Free Wifi network in the Kohi/Mission Bay/St Helliers area

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chrisjunkie

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# 15075 2-Aug-2007 19:55

As stated in the title I am wishing to start a wireless network that will run throughout Kohimarama, Mission Bay and St Helliers. Looking at either running WRT54GL's or Mikrotik Routerboards. Is anyone interested to help in the setting up/establishing a wireless bridge? I think it would be a really good way to push the wireless generation. Think about it, we could walk anywhere around the neighbourhood with our laptops/pda's and get on the net!

Just something that I have always been interested in doing. Did have a link going with a guy across the road but he moved :(

Let me know if your interested or have any ideas.

Cheers
Chris

MauriceWinn

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# 80933 2-Aug-2007 21:03

The problem with free Wi-Fi is that it gets overloaded and somebody has to pay for the internet connection. You could buy a Zenbu router for $249 and use the voucher function to print out and give vouchers to anyone you like, or make people friends of the zone which would cost them nothing. People could also sign up online and buy credit, with megabytes debited at 10c each. You'd get half the money and Zenbu half.

We did tests with high-gain and directional antennas and you can get line of sight coverage for 900 metres [we ran out of room on Mangere Bridge to test it further] with a dish antenna about 30cm diameter. With omni-directional high gain antennas you can get about 490 metres.

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# 80938 2-Aug-2007 21:21

Maurice's got a point. Beware of freeloaders - and if you have a limited connection, you might soon be having to pay excess charges, in which case why not charge for it to reduce costs?

Just beware that although many ISPs don't go around checking who's using what, sharing your connection is usually against the TOS.

Another option is Tomizone, also New Zealand-based and with blessing from Orcon (which means they don't break the TOS, at least for this ISP).

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chrisjunkie

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# 80942 2-Aug-2007 21:32

Thing is,

I would get frame relay and even possibly one better than that. It will have a secure login page so as that users will have to authenticate themselves

I will get the best out of it by being able to run my servers on a fast line etc

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whyless

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# 81317 6-Aug-2007 17:25

just responding to the TOS that the ISP's have that gets mentioned all the time, by a few members mostly. Checked out tomizone forums, and stevo has clearly had the same questions asked of him?, and the same response, the ISP's dont seem to mind, and if they did they wouldnt allow internet cafes like myself to operate. and it doesnt really matter if he has hooked up with orcon, you can have ANY isp with tomizone, and tomizone, like all others FIVO etc say the same thing "its your responsibility with your ISP". i wish this would get cleared up. But to make it short STOP mentioning it, because the ISP's dont care!. and if the law want stop this happening, why do these people want to put people off sharing their connections.

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# 81319 6-Aug-2007 17:32

I keep saying this because it's in the TOS. I won't stop mentioning, because it's true. I know som ISPs won't do much about it, simply because they can't even know the difference between you sharing your connection with the world or with your family - and I've heard this from at least two ISPs.

But, still, it's in the TOS, so it's good to make it clear.

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# 81322 6-Aug-2007 18:16

It's very difficult as MF points out.

The clause in on the TOC in case you decided to say get a fat fiber pipe into a building and then start reselling services off that pipe in competition with the ISP etc and other such situations where you are potentially utilizing the network in a fashion for which it may not have been designed or for the purposes of competition with your ISP.

whyless

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# 81333 6-Aug-2007 19:31

just deleted what i had written, sorry to upset the ADMINISTRATOR with these issues. Thought a forum was about freedom of speach, and asked a problem. have had it anzwered now thanks.

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# 81347 6-Aug-2007 20:29

whyless:
just deleted what i had written, sorry to upset the ADMINISTRATOR with these issues. Thought a forum was about freedom of speach, and asked a problem. have had it anzwered now thanks.

You are a troll. No one deleted your posts - we have been answering them all along. It's upsetting because the answer was repeated many times: you have to check with your ISP and if this may impact in your business plans then contact a lawyer.

Freedom of Speech doesn't mean you can go around trolling. You are banned because of this trollish comment now.

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lduncan

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# 81354 6-Aug-2007 21:02

chrisjunkie: Thing is,

I would get frame relay and even possibly one better than that. It will have a secure login page so as that users will have to authenticate themselves

I will get the best out of it by being able to run my servers on a fast line etc

Cheers

You'll probably find that frame is going the way of the dodo, at least as far as Telecom are concerned. They have/contiune to push prices up on it, presumably to get people to move to their CID fibre service, which obviously scales easier than frame.

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# 84869 2-Sep-2007 10:57

You are banned because of this trollish comment now.

*BOOM* goes the hammer! Where was Tony?

What exactly did he say that deserved a ban?

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# 84872 2-Sep-2007 11:05

This guy posted the question here and even after some explanations he started posting the same question again, complaining people were not helping here.

The ISP Terms of Services he signed up for say he can't share his connection. If he wants to do it then he should contact his ISP. But instead he posted about ten times here asking why his ISP would not allow him to do it, and he wanted to do it.

But things got really bad when he invoked "Freedom of speech" when we deleted all his other (irrelevant) threads. People don't seem to understand that freedom of speech is one thing, being a troll is another.

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MauriceWinn

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# 85102 3-Sep-2007 15:38

"Freedom of speech" is heavily over-used and also misunderstood.   For a start, freedom of speech is highly circumscribed in New Zealand.   All sorts of speech and writing are illegal and will be punished by gaol and fines.   Secondly, the concept doesn't apply to using the property of other people to conduct one's own free speech efforts.   This place, Geekzone, is owned by Geekzone and the owners determine who says what and what is published.   They might also be subject to terms of use by their suppliers limiting what Geekzone can publish.
For example, this post is off the topic, which is contrary to the terms of use, so this "free speech" could get me banned or the post deleted.
But it probably won't since it backs up what Mauricio wrote.    We'll see.

Meanwhile Wi-Fi metropolitan network plans are dropping like flies in the USA.
Earthlink is laying off staff by the hundred [nearly the thousand]. San Francisco's Wi-Fi is in trouble.   Kohi/MissionBay/St Heliers Wi-Fi seems to be in abeyance.