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Topic # 17368 23-Nov-2007 12:20
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Hi I bought s 2nd hand DI 524 and want to use it just as a wireless access point. (I already have an ADSL router).

I can't even log onto it. The manual says that it's IP address is 192.168.0.1 BUT hand written in the manual is that this has been changed to 10.1.1.201. I have tried both of these and I have pushed the RESET button but still can't connect to it.

I assume the simplest thing to get working is an ethernet connection from computer to a LAN connection on the DI 524 (with no connections at all to an ADSL router)?

So I'm assuming that I should be able to use a browser to connect to one of the above IP addresses.

Is there any way that I can find out without question what the correct IP address is?

The first vital step is merely to be able to log on to it's admin screen.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Mark


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  Reply # 96554 23-Nov-2007 13:13
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Are you sure your PC is setup to be on the same network as the 524, DHCP should work.  Pretty sure the reset button will reset everything to factory.




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  Reply # 96558 23-Nov-2007 13:34
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"Is it on the same network?"
Well, currently all I have is one computer that is unable to "see" one DI 524 with a single Cat5 cable between them.

I really don't know where to go from here - I can't think of anything simpler that I can try.

IPConfig on the computer still reports the default gateway (although it is not connected) and there is no entry for the DI 524.

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  Reply # 96563 23-Nov-2007 14:06
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Ahhh.

I have assumed that the 524 has reset correctly - thus IP = 192.168.0.1
I have changed the IP address of the computer to 192.168.0.2 (from 192.168.1.2)

and I can now logon the the 524 admin.

Thanks for the clue (same network).

I'll keep you posted on further progress.

Am I right that the original ADSL router will no longer be the "default gateway" since the 524 is now thus described?
So I just need to assign it another IP Address, say 192.168.0.10 ?

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  Reply # 96565 23-Nov-2007 14:26
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Scenario 1.

524 becomes computer's gateway (only if connecting ADSL router to 524 WAN interface).

ADSL router becomes 524's gateway on its WAN interface. You need to configure the WAN interface on the 524 to be on same subnet etc as ADSL router. Address of ADSL router is NOT changed.

If you connect the ADSL router to the WAN port on the 524 then changing the ADSL routers address to be on the 524's LAN subnet is NOT correct and will not work as the 524 is a router and routes between two different subnets on WAN and LAN interfaces.

Scenario 2.

If you are connecting ADSL router to 524's LAN interface (only using switch) then ADSL router remains the gateway and address remains the same. You would need to disable DHCP server in 524 and change address of 524 LAN interface to be on same subnet as ADSL router.




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  Reply # 96567 23-Nov-2007 14:35
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OK. Not finished yet, then.

Quick Pro's and Con's of the 2 options?

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  Reply # 96575 23-Nov-2007 15:24
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Option 2 is my recommend setup, you only want one NAT router which is the ADSL router and the whole system gateway. Just connect one of the LAN ports of the 524 to a LAN port of the ADSL router, there should be nothing connected to the WAN port of the 524. You must ensure that the DHCP server in the 524 is off, as the ADSL router will perform all the address administration functions. Once thats all done the 524 will operate as a simple layer2 WiFi AP and LAN switch (ie you gain 2more lan ports on your network).

The first option means you end up with a double NAT, this can cause some applications such as VOIP services to not work, and will potentially slow down traffic to the devices connected to the LAN/WiFi side of the 524, although with typical ADSL speeds in NZ probably not noticably.

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  Reply # 96586 23-Nov-2007 15:48
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OK.
Now I have:
ADSL Router 192.168.1.254
DLink DI524 192.168.1.1
Computers 192.168.1.2/3
and all seems to be working fine - thanks to all

1 final question - before I try getting my Squeezebox working on the wireless side...

I have in the past had the DHCP turned off on the ADSL router - as the network was static.
The only likely change now is the addition of the squeezebox on the wireless network:
Should I just set it's IP address manually or is there another advantage on having the ADSL router set up as a DHCP server?

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  Reply # 96589 23-Nov-2007 15:54
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Personally I have most PC's/devices on my network set a static, but run the DHCP especially if friends come along with pda's and laptops and can quickly connect without me having to intervene or remember what address I can give them.

I normally setup the DHCP server to have a restricted range, typicaly 192.168.1.30-200, giving it 170 addresses to hand out, and leaving .0-29 and 200-254 for statics.

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  Reply # 96591 23-Nov-2007 16:01
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Sweet. Thanks very much for your help, Cyril.
Yeah - that makes a lot of sense (once you see that you can do stuff like that).
I'll do the same.
Cheers
Mark

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