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# 204661 11-Oct-2016 22:09
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I might be moving into a new house soon (unconfirmed as of yet, but will want to get advice so I can immediately start as soon as I move).


It is already built, with ONT in that distribution box inside the garage, which connects to house's internal wiring that has ethernet jacks in various room walls, so changes probably can't happen.


In my current setup, I have ditched the ISP modem/router and connected my own router (RT-AC68W) directly to the ONT that's in my room. A few PC's and a server are connected to this router via ethernet.


In the new house, will I be able to either:


1) Ditch the ISP modem (If that's provided? Never seen the inside of that box so I have no idea how it works or what's inside), connect ONT directly to internal wiring, and then connect router to an ethernet jack in a room upstairs to serve my machines from that router?


2) Ditch ISP modem, connect router directly to ONT and connect that to internal wiring, then upstairs I add a switch to an ethernet jack?


Wireless is not an option for these, especially the server.




Second question would be if I were to rent out a room or 2 where those rooms have ethernet jacks, how can I provide possible tenants with an isolated connection via ethernet, or possibly disable the ethernet jacks and provide an isolated wifi connection?

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  # 1649516 11-Oct-2016 22:46
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If there isn't one already, wouldn't you run a switch in the distribution panel - and possibly your gateway router. Then everything would be on Ethernet. For wireless you could put a wireless AP off one of the Ethernet jacks in the house for portable devices.

For tenants, you might want a better switch, maybe using vlans to isolate.

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  # 1649534 11-Oct-2016 23:56
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Just had a look at what a distribution panel looks like, I assume it will be similar to this on the 2nd page?




I assume the diagram is telling me that only the room outlets that are connected will actually have ethernet access?


My router has enough ports to support my current usage, so I'm not sure if a switch inside the cabinet is needed.


I definitely have one particular room that requires multiple ports, so would it be more beneficial to


1) ONT -> router -> a room port. Then in one of the rooms, wall port -> switch -> devices


2) ONT -> switch(managed/unmanaged?) -> room ports. Then in one of the rooms, wall port -> router -> devices. While in another room, wall port -> Wireless AP (will an AP work with ONT only/without router? and will it be part of the same network?)




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  # 1649544 12-Oct-2016 00:47
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This sounds like a larger house. For isolated access to your tenants you've also got 2 options.


Option 1) Tell the Tenant to let their ISP know they'll like service on the 2nd port of the ONT. From here, patch from the 2nd port of the ONT to their premises and from there into their router. This will give them direct control over their connection.
Option 2) Purchase a router (like a UniFi Security Gateway) along with UniFi access points. There is a Community Cloud Controller I provide Here of which you're welcome to use and we can also provide community based support to help set you up. You'll need:
1) A UniFi Security Gateway.
2) UniFi Access Points (1x upstairs, 1x downstairs - look at the UniFi AC-LR Lite).
3) A switch like the TP Link TL-SG1016DE (16 port smart switch) which supports VLAN tagging.


You can from here create a separate VLAN network for your tenants along with building-wide WiFi (2x SSID's - one for the tenants on its own VLAN and one for you) and also do some smarts like guest access etc all from the UniFI controller and the quality of your connection (both wired and wireless) will be awesome. You can hide the equipment in the garage and just mount the UniFi access points in the house in central locations close to an Ethernet jack (or ceiling mount - if you're able to do a few runs of Ethernet).


I would never recommend using a standard ISP provided router for this task - some investment is needed but that investment does give you a really good network to work with and make your own.

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