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#208949 6-Mar-2017 14:49
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We've got two boys who have the typical young person addiction to using devices (usually iPads, sometimes phones or Android tablet). I'm looking for a technical solution to control their access to the internet (please no comments re teaching the kids good practices; I get all that, and try to do this, but sometimes the ability to use a blanket control is appropriate!).

 

I know I can elect to limit access at the router level, but that's a hassle as the interfaces aren't user-friendly or quick to use, and we have two different brands of routers so this can't be done without making adjustments on both devices. Similarly, neither have an app available (which some models of routers seem to work with).

 

There are parental control apps I'm aware of, but I'm not keen on the subscription model some use (eg Our Pact) nor convinced at handing over money to purchase an app when not 100% sure it'll do the trick.

 

So, has anyone got any suggestions as to the best way to restricting internet access to specific devices, ideally from a simple phone- or tablet-based interface?

 

Thanks for any ideas.


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  #1730989 6-Mar-2017 15:10
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I had an app called kids place I think it was on android, that in the parental settings you could whitelist apps and times and enforce usage that way.  It ran all the time and became the only launcher they were able to use.

 

The other options are putting them on their own SSID and controlling it at the router level...of course that wont stop them playing local games.





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  #1730999 6-Mar-2017 15:19
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the Microsoft Family platform works great if you're using all Windows-based devices: Windows 10 (and Windows 8.1 with limitations); Windows Phone; or Xbox.  Unfortunately it doesn't extend to the iPad or Android - although that would be a great feature in my opinion.  The family settings can control screen time, either aggregated or per-device, along with browsing and app controls. https://account.microsoft.com/account/ManageMyAccount?destrt=FamilyLandingPage 





 
 
 
 


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  #1731007 6-Mar-2017 15:27
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Duct tape.





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MikeAqua:

 

Duct tape.

 

 

Makes the screen all sticky though.





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  #1731042 6-Mar-2017 15:50
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Im using https://www.qustodio.com/en/ at the moment for my two kids - using the free option mainly to define allowed times for the kids to get online. THink it only allows one user per account though, so if they share a computer with separate logins, might not work as well unless youre happy to be locked out of it as well :)

 

Have schedule set for 2pm-6pm week days, and 7-12, 2hr break, then 2-6 weekends. Changes take affect almost instantly.

 

Only downside to it, is that it dosent log them out, just locks the PC so any running apps will still be there.





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  #1731044 6-Mar-2017 15:51
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Regs:

 

the Microsoft Family platform works great if you're using all Windows-based devices: Windows 10 (and Windows 8.1 with limitations); Windows Phone; or Xbox.  Unfortunately it doesn't extend to the iPad or Android - although that would be a great feature in my opinion.  The family settings can control screen time, either aggregated or per-device, along with browsing and app controls. https://account.microsoft.com/account/ManageMyAccount?destrt=FamilyLandingPage 

 

 

I have not been able to get that working for quite some time, gave up in the end, which is a pity because it was working fine for such a long time until about a year ago.

 

 





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Depends on how 'technical' you want it.  I run an Untangle TMG at home - all traffic is routed through it, like so:

ONT -> Untangle -> Switch -> LAN / WAN

This way I have central control over all data, including ad blocking, virus scanning, and access control.   And all via a nice web interface.

You didn't actually say if you want to block porn etc. or actually limit their access to certain times, what level of 'control' are you after?


 
 
 
 


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Our school has opted for Chromebooks, so we're in a similar boat re these.

The Vodafone VSDL modem we have doesn't seem too bad to use, but from memory it was a bit tricky to identify devices (some came up labelled, others were identified solely via MAC address).

 

Posting to watch the thread develop really.  Thanks.


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  #1731051 6-Mar-2017 15:59
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Other thing is Wingate, they have a free license which works well as well - had that running until I found Qustodio.

 

 





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May not suit you if you run multiple routers. I also do, but now the kids can only access one router, too bad. I bought a pretty expensive Synology RT1900 and it's awesome. The parental controls (access control for hours, safe search and filtering) are very easy to administer. The browser interface is excellent and very easy. I take great pleasure in easily adding the same restrictions to visiting children's devices. It takes about a minute. I can also monitor and restrict bandwidth to specific devices. The kids devices turn into pumpkins at 7pm on school nights and 10 on weekend nights.
Expensive but highly recommended. (We do supervise usage and have an agreement about appropriate use and content etc).

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  #1731103 6-Mar-2017 17:04
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davidcole:

 

MikeAqua:

 

Duct tape.

 

 

Makes the screen all sticky though.

 

 

On the kids, not the screen!





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xpd:

 

Regs:

 

the Microsoft Family platform works great if you're using all Windows-based devices: Windows 10 (and Windows 8.1 with limitations); Windows Phone; or Xbox.  Unfortunately it doesn't extend to the iPad or Android - although that would be a great feature in my opinion.  The family settings can control screen time, either aggregated or per-device, along with browsing and app controls. https://account.microsoft.com/account/ManageMyAccount?destrt=FamilyLandingPage 

 

 

I have not been able to get that working for quite some time, gave up in the end, which is a pity because it was working fine for such a long time until about a year ago.

 

 

 

 

What issues did you have?

 

We use it at home on the kids Windows 10 computer and it works great.


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With an income of $10 per week they can sidestep almost anything you do. If there's two of them they may have a lot more than that combined.

 

In the past kids could get the internet connection details and swap their own router in when the parents were out. Now it's much simpler when almost any cheap (sub-$100) phone can become an Internet gateway using mobile data and Wifi.


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  #1731138 6-Mar-2017 19:09
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Norton Family works on Windows, Mac, iOS and Android. You can set times, site categories and for mobile you can set things like which phone numbers they can call or message.

 

Obviously you will make the kids account non-admin and there's always the possibility kids will know to boot Android in safe mode to disable apps with Administrative rights. But then again you will have had some conversation with your kids beforehand...





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Norton Family works on Windows, Mac, iOS and Android. You can set times, site categories and for mobile you can set things like which phone numbers they can call or message.

 

Obviously you will make the kids account non-admin and there's always the possibility kids will know to boot Android in safe mode to disable apps with Administrative rights. But then again you will have had some conversation with your kids beforehand...

 

 

I tried norton family sometime back and it was a failure.... due to various reasons, bugs, instability, platform support.  

 

Now, I just use the parental controls in the fritzbox. You can assign each network device to a profile, so all the kids devices are set to 'kids' profile. 

 

And, i can block internet access totally for all the kids devices with a simple click.     It is funny, they'll all be upstairs playing on the various devices and i switch it off, and in a flash I hear the pitter patter of angry little feet haha. 

 

You can set time limits etc too.... the advantage of doing this through the router is that it is OS agnostic .  Of course there are some disadvantages too, as they can do some things off line but generally the internet is their drug of choice. 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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