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# 209035 9-Mar-2017 21:10
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So I have an Asus RT-AC5300 router here and wanted to connect it up to my Netgear DGND3700 on modem mode only. I read that perhaps the Netgear doesn't support PPPoA to PPPoE even if I set it to 'Modem Only', is that correct?

If I play around with the DHCP on both, apparently I will get double NAT which is not recommended, but will the internet still work?

I think I will be suggested here to get myself a Draytek Vigor 120 as that supports PPPoA to PPPoE.

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  # 1734041 9-Mar-2017 22:09
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Which ISP and do they support PPPoE over ADSL?




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  # 1734054 9-Mar-2017 22:29
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I'm on Slingshot and I think they only use PPPoA.




 
 
 
 




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  # 1734055 9-Mar-2017 22:30
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At the moment I just have the ASUS set up as AP mode.




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  # 1734070 9-Mar-2017 22:51
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If you are directly connected to the exchange (not through a cabinet) you will very likely be on their LLU MSAN network and PPPoE is available over ATM VC 0/110 for ADSL.



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  # 1734073 9-Mar-2017 23:10
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So username and password would be the same, and I'd just have to set it to VC 0/110 instead of VC 0/100? 

 

Do I have to get it activated or do both PPPoA and PPPoE work?





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  # 1734116 10-Mar-2017 01:42
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If you're confident I would just give it a go. It is just changing the VPI/VCI settings for the ADSL layer 2 interface.

 

 

I do not know since their new ownership under Vocus group, from what I understand they have deployed new BNG templates so things may be configured differently nowadays.

 

 

If it doesn't work, just change it back. :)

 

 




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  # 1734435 10-Mar-2017 15:47
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Yep, will try tonight. There is always a reset button! :-)





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  # 1734453 10-Mar-2017 16:21
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yitz: If you are directly connected to the exchange (not through a cabinet) you will very likely be on their LLU MSAN network and PPPoE is available over ATM VC 0/110 for ADSL.

 

Do you need to set VLAN 10 on this as well?




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  # 1734779 11-Mar-2017 13:33
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yitz: If you are directly connected to the exchange (not through a cabinet) you will very likely be on their LLU MSAN network and PPPoE is available over ATM VC 0/110 for ADSL.

 

Nope didn't work. I could be connected through a cabinet then.





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  # 1756034 3-Apr-2017 22:08
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DarkShadow:

 

yitz: If you are directly connected to the exchange (not through a cabinet) you will very likely be on their LLU MSAN network and PPPoE is available over ATM VC 0/110 for ADSL.

 

Do you need to set VLAN 10 on this as well?

 

 

 

 

I've just encountered this issue with my 2Degrees ADSL. Works fine on my Fritzbox 7360 where I can set vlan 10 but not on a Netgegar 3700v2 which has no VLAN option. I wanted to use the Netgear as it has bridge function to work with a corporate Sonicwall since I'm working from home now and need some IPSec tunnels etc


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  # 1756042 3-Apr-2017 22:53
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You can set the Netgear in (RFC 1483/2684) bridged mode and let the Sonicwall tag the inbound/outbound packets.

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  # 1756057 3-Apr-2017 23:31
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Taking a trace I see the sonicwall sending out a PPoE Dis on Vlan 10 but I'm only getting traffic untagged back. I think the LAN ports of the 3700 don't support tagging.

There are some custom firmwares for the router so I'll try that later when GIT let's me download them....

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  # 1756058 3-Apr-2017 23:41
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Just grabbed a vigor 120 off TM will confirm in a few days if that works. It should, we've used them before at work. Think this Netgear 3700 is a no for any tagged PPoE stuff.

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Yeah it looks like an older model, its switch is probably hardcoded to drop tagged packets.



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  # 1756239 4-Apr-2017 12:12
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markg1275: Just grabbed a vigor 120 off TM will confirm in a few days if that works. It should, we've used them before at work. Think this Netgear 3700 is a no for any tagged PPoE stuff.

 

I got myself a Vigor 120 in the end, and now it bridges wonderfully with my Ubiquiti USG. Saved some space in the process too!





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