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Topic # 229231 13-Feb-2018 21:09
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Hi there,

I have recently changed to a home fibre broadband and phone package. As it stands now, installed that is, the phone line is plugged into the modem. Is there any way that the modem could be stand alone and the phone stand alone as well instead of one being plugged into another. My wall jacks were disconnected as part of the installation as they are on the old copper network.

As it is plugged as is currently, I can’t move one with moving the other. I’d rather have them separate.

Any advice would be appreciated. Do I need to get jacks installed for the phone? What would it take to have them operate separately ?

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Lynette

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  Reply # 1956628 13-Feb-2018 21:10
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What ISP?

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Edit: Who ever did the fibre install should have connected the modem to the internal house copper wiring so the existing telephone jack points still can be used with normal POTS telephones





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  Reply # 1956630 13-Feb-2018 21:11
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ISP is Vodafone NZ

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1956631 13-Feb-2018 21:13
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Is there an existing phone wall jack near the router(modem)?

 

How many wall jacks are there?


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  Reply # 1956632 13-Feb-2018 21:15
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Sorry edited my post above my parents are on VodafoneNZ fibre and all Telephone jack points and phones work 100% the same way before getting fibre

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  Reply # 1956634 13-Feb-2018 21:22
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There is an existing wall jack next to the modem as it was used in the old adsl modem and phone set up via a filter. That is dead at the moment.

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  Reply # 1956635 13-Feb-2018 21:26
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Fijikiwis: There is an existing wall jack next to the modem as it was used in the old adsl modem and phone set up via a filter. That is dead at the moment.


So the modem / AP can be connected to that jack point to provide service to all the Telephone jack points in the house but the copper coming into the house from street can't be connected to the copper network, My parents had the copper removed between the pole out on the road to the house

You need someone like @coffeebaron to take a look

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  Reply # 1956636 13-Feb-2018 21:28
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Find where the old copper phone line came into the house and disconnect it.

 

This will isolate your existing wall jacks.

 

Plug the modem phone cable into the wall jack.

 

The wall jacks will now work as they used to.


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  Reply # 1956639 13-Feb-2018 21:30
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out of the box, Vodafone setup you to use the RGW (the router they supply).

 

 

 

It is possible to connect this into the home wiring and use normally, however this likely isn't supported.

 

Based on the fact that previously you had the phone plugged in at the same place as the modem, Does it not going through the home wiring change anything?





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  Reply # 1956640 13-Feb-2018 21:35
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This is our setup.


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Firstly, the "Fibre Modem" is actually a router (the ONT is technically the modem).

Secondly, you may get better speeds through your switch if you used a gigabit switch instead of just a Fast Ethernet switch.





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  Reply # 1958359 14-Feb-2018 22:51
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The diagram was drawn when we got fibre installed four years ago. It was a quick modification of the ADSL drawing I had previously drawn to show how everything is connected. I missed changing modem to router on the diagram. There have been a couple of changes since. The Blu-Ray has been disconnected. The cable now goes to an HTPC and has been shifted to the spare port on the router. The switch is still there, but as it only goes to the TV's and PVR I can't see any need to fit a gigabit one.

 

I posted the drawing to show an example of how the existing internal phone wiring can be connected to the fibre system. Thought it might be easier for the topic starter to understand. "A picture is worth a thousand words."

 

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Is your landline phone a corded phone or a cordless one?

If cordless, another option is to switch to 2degrees fibre. As their supplied router has an inbuilt DECT base station. Meaning you can program a cordless phone to directly communicate with the router. The original base station that came with the cordless phone is then only used to charge the phone battery.

Note that not all cordless phones will work with that router. As there are some out there that don't fully comply with the DECT standard.

And of course the router needs to be in a good location for a DECT base station.





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  Reply # 1958383 15-Feb-2018 07:14
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Integration with existing wiring is not a standard part of a UFB install. It needs to be requested by the RSP at the time and there is an extra cost for this due to the extra parts and work associated.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1959307 16-Feb-2018 19:40
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Harvey norman sell cordless phones with multiple handsets and charger cradles. 

 

If you wire the router up to the house reticulation, you must disconnect the chorus copper line from the house reticulation. You must also remove any DSL splitters (hard wired or in-line) as they can cause problems. 





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