connecting two adsl connections to make a super connection?

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#28817 12-Dec-2008 17:55

Just wondering if any body knows if its posible or has done it. for conversation sake

connecting to adsl connections to make a faster connection. ie two phone lines bridge the connection via a router to make a connection twice as fast or just more reliable

swt thanks for you suggestions

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#183784 12-Dec-2008 21:57

This was discussed a few months ago in the broadband forum. I believe Snap announced at the time that they were experimenting with dual connections, and that they would post more information about it at some stage. Can't find the link sorry.

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#183787 12-Dec-2008 22:33

Thanks dude. Sory have not been on for a while should have used search pitty i have not got snap in my area thanks

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#183790 12-Dec-2008 22:43

BrendonGyde: Thanks dude. Sory have not been on for a while should have used search pitty i have not got snap in my area thanks

Welcome matey. If I remember corrently (theres a decent chance I don't...) it involved getting two seperate dsl connections and joining them together at the exchange? Or I could just be making this up! Either way Snap said its a long time before it'd be viable. Other people suggested that you could just get two DSL connections (either naked or normal) and get a router capable a load balancing between the two connections (or as our almighty admin does, get a router that can have dsl and mobile broadband - I'm sure he'll post a link at some stage :P). Cisco have some routers that can do this. I suspose BGP is also theoritically possible although you need a block of IP's for that one.

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#184712 17-Dec-2008 09:24

Just saw this article, its what you were asking about: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/16/bre_broadband_line_bonding/, also this is relavent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_bonding and this: http://www.mainpine.com/linebonding.html

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#184830 17-Dec-2008 17:48

kingjj: Just saw this article, its what you were asking about: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/16/bre_broadband_line_bonding/, also this is relavent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_bonding and this: http://www.mainpine.com/linebonding.html

Thanks dude good read. may ring around the isps and see if they support it

:) very good

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#185019 18-Dec-2008 20:52

Basically you need to get a load balancing router.
This is a router with 2 wan ports which go to 2 seperate adsl modems.

How it works is that it has a set of rules programmed into it. Typically you would program it so that any new connections from the lan would go through the least congested / highest avaliable wan connection. This is cheaper than buying a bonded adsl if you can find one.
It also means that if pc1 is downloading something through wan1, when pc2 tries to download something, it will automatically be sent through wan2.

There is clearly a limitation to this though and that is a file being downloaded or a single connection can only use the maximum capacity of one of the wan connections. Because everything is done from your end, not the isp, there is this limitation.

However this is where you can get the extra speed.

By using one of those download managers or p2p programs, they split the file up and download it in parts at the same time. The load balancing router will naturally route half the parts / connections through 1 wan and the other half through the other wan so you get double the speed.

Back in the days of bonded 56k lines (you could use 2 telephone lines and 2 modems to get double speed) the isp's would charge heavily for this so it was expensive, a load balancing router is much cheaper. I dont think you can even get bonded adsl in new zealand.

PM me if you want more info. You can probably find a load balancing router on trademe for about $200.
I suggest also going with 2 different isp's so that if one goes down, you have the other still working - it becomes an internet connection that never goes down.

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#185020 18-Dec-2008 20:57

Thanks ray. good explination. i was thinking more of going the bonded rout hoping to improve my gaming ping on my consoles thanks very helpful

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#185159 19-Dec-2008 15:42

Won't help your pings at all, thats nothing to do with available bandwidth, it will still take the same length of time to transmist the packets over any given line rate, and the delays on the net will still be the same. With the DSL leg of the connection only adding 10-12 ms there isnt much room to drop that when the rest of the internet has much greater delays.

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