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casperthedog

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#92835 7-Nov-2011 15:29
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Hi

Has anyone successfully wirelessly bridged to a Thomson TG585 from another router? If so please tell me how your routers are set up.


I have a Thomson TG585v8 from Telecom as my wireless modem/router.

I also have a TP-Link WR740N wireless router which I am attempting to bridge to the Thomson (wirelessly). My end goal is to have the TP-Link connected via Ethernet to my TV, console etc, and then the TP-Link bridging over to the Thomson and off to the intertubes.

The TP-Link has WDS but I understood the Thomson doesn’t (and both need to) so I flashed the TP-Link with dd-wrt so I could set up a bridge easily. (The dd-wrt had a couple of good wiki pages on how to set up a bridge using dd-wrt).

I’ve followed those instructions but the best I could get on the Thomson was a log saying the TP-Link (identified by the MAC address) could not authenticate.

I’ve tried:

- Setting wireless security to none, WEP, WPA and WPA2
- Dropping to Wireless G only
- Using Bridge instead of Client Bridge mode in dd-wrt on the TP-link
- Turning firewalls off
- Checking and rechecking I’ve got the keys right.
- Checking the SSID is the same on both routers

I assumed if the connection worked I could ping the Thomson (set up as 192.168.1.254) from a laptop ethernet connected to the TP-Link (192.168.1.6), but no, nothing, nada, zilch.

I’m thinking there’s something that needs doing on the Thomson but am now at a loss as to what.

My secondary goal is to be able to share my music collection through the TV. The music is on my PC which is connect via Ethernet to the Thomson. I’ve managed this already, but only by connecting the TV directly to the Thomson via a long Ethernet cable which I want to avoid).

Cheers.

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garvani
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  #542070 7-Nov-2011 15:33
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Ive found the Thomson's to be lacking severly in features and stability for that matter. Some routers just don't allow bridging or repeating. It may be easier to make your tplink a wireless client, that way whatever is connected to it will be a wireless client to your thomson (it will only allow one device at a time to be connected to the internet if in wireless client mode however)

casperthedog

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  #542072 7-Nov-2011 15:39
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Thanks Garvarni

I'll have to look up how to put a DD-WRT router in client mode. Not an ideal solution but at the moment there is only the TV that needs to connect anyway.

Will let you know if it works.

 
 
 
 


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  #542073 7-Nov-2011 15:41
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No problem. hopefully someone with more intimate knowledge of thomson's comes in with an exact answer to your problem, i try to avoid them where possible :). However getting your tplink into client mode will sort out your immediate problem and allow you to get media to your tv,

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  #542079 7-Nov-2011 16:04
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Just read on the DD-WRT site that routers with Atheros chips (i.e. my WR740N) don't do client bridging well.

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Bridging

Hope straight client setup works.

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  #542083 7-Nov-2011 16:31
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Client bridge and upnp/dlna dont play well together as the mac address gets spoofed and some broadcast stuff doesnt make it thru.

IMO, take the thompson outside and see how well it interacts with your left over fireworks and get something that does WDS nativly.

-or-

get another TP link (they are very cheap) and plug that into the thompson and then bridge the 2 TP-Link devices and ignore the thompsons WIFI.




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  #542121 7-Nov-2011 17:31
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Why cant you run a cable?

casperthedog

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  #542223 7-Nov-2011 20:42
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Ok so I got home and set up the TP-Link as a client rather than client bridged and... it worked!

I now have glorious internet on my Bravia (although gotta say the browser is crap).

The TP-Link does DHCP too so I can connect more than one device. But it's on a different subnet to the main router so I don't think I'll be able to access the XP box with my music on it (which is wired to the Thomson)

BTW I didn't want to run a cable as it would get messy running around the walls etc. The way I have it now the TP-Link is hidden in the back of the TV unit so it's 'invisible'.

Thanks for everyone's input.

 
 
 
 


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  #545432 15-Nov-2011 04:07
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Have you considered Ethernet over power?
Given the Thomson and TV have power near them, there shouldn't be any requirement for ugly cables outside of those from the two routers to the power point.
This also places all your devices on the same LAN if required.
I'm not sure what else is serviced by the TP-LINK router, but if it's just the TV then you can also reconsider the role of the TP-Link router.

Just for the record, the TP-Link WA730RE works will with the Thomson as a range extender.
You can't walk the house while streaming music without the momentary disconnection/reconnection as it transitions to and from the TP-Link range extender when moving out of it's range.

In conjunction with the Thomson TG585v8 65Mbps 802.11n WiFi the TP-WA730RE 150Mbps 802.11n WiFi does still manage a good data throughput rate.

As we know, Range Extenders halve their available bandwidth as they are sending and receiving two data streams at the same time.

The new TP-WA830RE Range Extender at 300Mbps is another option with a bit more bang for your bucks.

As much as I dislike range extenders, they do reduce the number of APs and thus WiFi channel conflict when one doesn't have the bridge option.

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#929430 8-Nov-2013 14:13
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Hi there you can have the TP-Link Wireless modem as your main modem and then change the settings on the Thomson one under 192.168.1.254 to the same network name as the other one along with the same channel and pass code if there is one and then run a Ethernet cable from the TP-Link one and plug it into the Ethernet port number one on the Thomson one and it will act as a repeater and a 3 port Ethernet switch hope it works because I have done the exact same thing except with a tenda modem as my main modem and it still works with any other modem other wise you will need to get a WAN (wide area network) modem that supports Wire-less WAN and connect to the network much like what the tenda W380Rcanoffer and it costs around 90 bucks from jaycar and $5 dollar postage in auckland or other wise you can pop in to a store

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  #929504 8-Nov-2013 15:10
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Sounds like you sorted it - configure your 2nd router in client mode.

I have a cisco wes-610n bridge connected to my Thomson - no biggy.

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  #929579 8-Nov-2013 16:42
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kierangio: Hi there you can have the TP-Link Wireless modem as your main modem and then change the settings on the Thomson one under 192.168.1.254 to the same network name as the other one..... CUT



Holy thread revival, you realise you just necro'd a 2 year old thread (almost to the day)

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  #929820 9-Nov-2013 07:06
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I have done this with a belkin router and tomato usb firmware. Use the setting wireless ethernet bridge. I did this to get internet for a raspberry pi. The belkin router also makes for a reasonable file server :)

To get tomato onto the router I first had to flash ddwrt, then tomatousb.

Did you manage to get it working with your equipment?

Edit: Ignore, this was an old thread that was sorted it seems.

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