Yale Z-wave 7 Zigbee door locks (anyone use these with a hub)

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FletchNZ

113 posts

Master Geek

#2243122 22-May-2019 13:44

kiwijunglist:

I have my Yale YRD426NRSC Assure Bluetooth Lock working with zigbee in home assistant using zigbee2mqtt.

Here is a ebay link to the zigbee module I bought:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yale-Assure-Zigbee-Network-Module-integrate-your-Yale-Lock-to-home-auto-system/273430010317?epid=6023135796&hash=item3fa9b2d9cd:g:SuMAAOSwm~Fbhd4T

$80 AUD + P&P

To setup in home assistant:

1. Install zigbee module into the lock

2. Turn on "allow new zigbee to join" in zigbee2mqtt

3. Press 4 digit master code on the lock , then , setup , 7 , setup , 1 , setup .

4. Wait a few seconds, then reload the home assistant web page in your browser and the lock is there.

Hi kiwijunglist,

Im just picking a smart lock for my new front door and you thread has been really helpful.

Are you still happy with your Yale assure BT and not regretting getting the keyless model?

What Zigbee module did you use for your Home assistant server? I only have a Xaiomi gateway and I doubt that will work.

Cheers,

Fletch

DigeratiDom

6 posts

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#2243143 22-May-2019 14:40

Hi Fletch,

Can't comment on the BT locks, but with regards to Zigbee and Home Assistant take a look at this thread - https://community.home-assistant.io/t/best-zigbee-gateway/81512

I run my Yale lock via ZWave and it has been flawless in 2 years - zero errors.

Dom

FletchNZ

113 posts

Master Geek

#2243146 22-May-2019 14:50

Thanks Dom, I appreciate the feedback. Which lock model do you have?

Ill pick up a Conbee 2 shortly.

I keep shying way from Zwave due to all the different regional frequencies and with how good and cheap the Zigbee Xaiomi devices are.

I do love the Aeotec devices but so pricey.

kiwijunglist

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#2243148 22-May-2019 14:54

I have never used the key, but i figure it is a good backup if the lock motor failed, rather than just the battery failing.

If you think the keyhole looks ugly then get the keyless lock i guess. If the battery fails in the keyless lock you use a 9v battery on the terminals underneath the lock.

The zigbee module is ok, I bought it because the z-wave module doesn't seem to be available yet for the newer bluetooth assure lock (based on my research).

I use a cc2530 usb zigbee stick ($3USD) and used a programming module ($10USD) to program the usb stick for zigbee2mqtt.

Yale Lock -> Yale zigbee module -> zigbee -> cc2530 usb zigbee stick -> zigbee2mqtt -> mqtt -> home assistant.

I can control the lock remotely in home assistant, and I know when the door is locked or unlocked as well as the battery level. I'm not sure if I can tell what user opened the door (ie multiple keypad combinations to trigger a specific automation based on the combination used)

You can't use the xiaomi hub for the yale lock. You can however use cc2530 usb stick and zigbee for xiaomi devices and ditch the xiaomi hub if wanted.

People often prefer z-wave to zigbee, advantage of zigbee as you know it's cheaper, mainly because you can buy international devices due to everyone using the same zigbee frequency (2.4ghz) vs zwave which is different for each region. I think zwave is less likely to have interference from strong wifi signals.

HTPC / Home automation (home assistant) enthusiast.

kiwijunglist

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#2243153 22-May-2019 15:02

Ps. I installed the lock myself it wasn't too difficult.

You need a drill, holesaw, chisel.

I made a wooden insert that plugged into the gap filled by the old lock and a small amount of builders putty (the white stuff you mix with a big of pink activator) to fill in the smaller gaps. I assume that just using builders putty only might not be as strong as wood (although i might be wrong, as that stuff is pretty strong). I think an epoxy might be even stronger, but i repaired the door on it's hinges and I assume epoxy might be a bit runny unless you had some kind of epoxy putty stuff.

HTPC / Home automation (home assistant) enthusiast.

FletchNZ

113 posts

Master Geek

#2243155 22-May-2019 15:03

Thanks for that, the background info is really helpful i'm making sure I don't get the wrong one or something incompatible.

Im tossing up between deconz and Zigbee2mqtt, so ill need to pick what medium but if i end up changing to Zwave I can swap out the Yale lock module

I see the Zwave module is now available, fyi.

https://www.assaabloyopeningsolutions.nz/en/local/nz/site-functions/news/2019/news/product-release-assure-z-wave-module/

kiwijunglist

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#2243157 22-May-2019 15:10

That's good. I recommend maybe buying (the module) from Australia, as I bet the NZ price is redonkulous.

You can also just not get the module for now, it doesn't really add that much to the experience, I'm not currently using it for any automations other than automatically re-locking the front door after a set time if the door is closed (the delay to lock depends on the time of the day). I haven't set it up to arm/disarm my alarm as my in laws are staying with us currently.

HTPC / Home automation (home assistant) enthusiast.

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DigeratiDom

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#2243411 23-May-2019 08:33

I've got the YRD210, really pleased with it. Yes, you do have to be careful with Zwave devices to ensure you keep to the only licensed frequency in NZ (921.4Mhz).

kiwijunglist:

Hi

I have never used the key, but i figure it is a good backup if the lock motor failed, rather than just the battery failing.

If you think the keyhole looks ugly then get the keyless lock i guess. If the battery fails in the keyless lock you use a 9v battery on the terminals underneath the lock.

The zigbee module is ok, I bought it because the z-wave module doesn't seem to be available yet for the newer bluetooth assure lock (based on my research).

I use a cc2530 usb zigbee stick ($3USD) and used a programming module ($10USD) to program the usb stick for zigbee2mqtt.

Yale Lock -> Yale zigbee module -> zigbee -> cc2530 usb zigbee stick -> zigbee2mqtt -> mqtt -> home assistant.

I can control the lock remotely in home assistant, and I know when the door is locked or unlocked as well as the battery level. I'm not sure if I can tell what user opened the door (ie multiple keypad combinations to trigger a specific automation based on the combination used)

You can't use the xiaomi hub for the yale lock. You can however use cc2530 usb stick and zigbee for xiaomi devices and ditch the xiaomi hub if wanted.

People often prefer z-wave to zigbee, advantage of zigbee as you know it's cheaper, mainly because you can buy international devices due to everyone using the same zigbee frequency (2.4ghz) vs zwave which is different for each region. I think zwave is less likely to have interference from strong wifi signals.

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