Yale Z-wave 7 Zigbee door locks (anyone use these with a hub)

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Topic # 239877 8-Aug-2018 22:50

Anyone using the Yale door locks with zigbee or z-wave module?

Do you have them integrated into a hub? If so which one?

a) Yale touchscreen digital deadbolt - SYEDDB/220/NZ

b) Yale assure Bluetooth digital deadbolt - YRD446NRSC (no key) / YRD426NRSC (keyed version)

Apparently the 220 model only works with z-wave and the 426/446 model only works with zigbee. Which doesn't seem to fit with the packaging on the 426/446 box which lists that it is compatible with both the z-wave and the zigbee addon module. I want to use them with home assistant. If z-wave I would pair them with an aotec gen5 z-wave usb stick, and if they are zigbee I am not sure how I would connect to them (maybe buy an old wink hub from amazon ~$30usd, or perhaps see if I can get it working with zigbee2mqtt)

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Reply # 2070340 9-Aug-2018 00:39

No solution, sorry, but support from someone in a similar position. I’m keen to get a Yale lock and connect it to Home Assistant via either Z-Wave (I have the same USB stick as you) or Zigbee, too. I’ve seen a couple of Zigbee USB sticks talked about on the HA forum that could be another option for you.

I’ve been waiting for the Zigbee/Z-wave version of their 3109 to be released, which they told me at the 2017 Home Show would be in April 2018, but still nowhere to be seen. I even emailed Yale twice and didn’t even get a reply, so if we can’t get pre-sales support then we’ll be dreaming if we have any hope of post-sale support...

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Reply # 2070341 9-Aug-2018 01:14

I don't like the 3109 it looks too modern / commercial for our home (1965 weather board).

I tried it both the 220 and the assure model in the shop today the assure had a slightly more responsive capacitive touch screen and seemed like it might be a newer model.

It looks like the 220 works well with the aotec stick in H.A.

See copy and paste below

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Hi.

I saw your post

I have a Yale YRD220 connected directly to HA and it works great. The history shows who unlocked the door and when. I have an automation set up to send an email and SMS when the door is unlocked with certain codes. I highly recommend

Just wondering.

How does it interface directly with h.a. or is it via a hub?

Can home assistant unlock the door via an automation

Thanks
Mike

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It works directly with HA. I’ve used both the Aeotec and the HUSBZB-1 controllers with the lock. Yes, you can unlock/lock the door using an automation. I have mine setup to control the lock using Amazon Alexa via Node-Red.

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Reply # 2070386 9-Aug-2018 08:34

I have the Yale 220 lock with z-wave module and use a Vera edge z-wave hub. I can operate the lock (and manage PIN numbers) via the web or mobile Vera apps, and also lock or query it via Alexa.

It's proven to be quite handy to be able to remotely check, unlock and lock the door with my phone.

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Reply # 2070396 9-Aug-2018 09:02

I have 2 of the first ones (key + keypad). withthe zwave module. Ive used it with vera lite and with morepork.

worked fine with both. it works better with morepork as that can disarm my alarm aswell. but thats not a home automation solution, but i find it handier having it on my alarm so when the alarm is set the doors are automatically locked.

http://activeautomation.co.nz/ sell the deadbolt with the module or you can buy the module separately.

I tried the other model that had an inbuilt door handle, but that broke within 5minutes. i turned the handle to open the door as it was locking and it broke. stupid design problem as that will happen every once in a while with it set to auto lock after 30 seconds. the other deadbolts have had no issues with this. the locking process just stops.

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Reply # 2070981 9-Aug-2018 23:26

I have the SYEDDB/220/NZ running via an Aoetec Gen5 z-wave USB stick with Home Assistant. Keen to see what others are using for their configuration.yaml for this lock as I'm wanting to log different key codes in the history.

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Reply # 2100146 2-Oct-2018 15:38

DigeratiDom:

I have the SYEDDB/220/NZ running via an Aoetec Gen5 z-wave USB stick with Home Assistant. Keen to see what others are using for their configuration.yaml for this lock as I'm wanting to log different key codes in the history.

I've just set one of these up but only see the option to Lock the door even though it's already locked. Any chance you could share exactly how you added it to HA and what entities it presented once added?

DigeratiDom

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Reply # 2100478 3-Oct-2018 09:37

Hi,

You need to make sure that your lock is added to your zwave network via a secure inclusion.

The first thing you will need to do is generate a network key for you to secure your zwave adaptor:

cat /dev/urandom | tr -dc '0-9A-F' | fold -w 32 | head -n 1 | sed -e 's/$..$/0x\1, /g'

Then you will need to added the following to your configuration.yaml file:

zwave:
usb_path: /dev/ttyACM0
network_key: <ouput from the above command>

Hope this helps,

Dom

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Reply # 2100538 3-Oct-2018 10:12

Thanks Dom, appreciate that. I got it working but had to remove the door lock and put in near the Z-stick. HA say that it may not enroll correctly if you have a mixture of z-wave and z-wave plus gear as I do.

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Reply # 2100546 3-Oct-2018 10:27

What z-wave plus gear are you running?

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Reply # 2100676 3-Oct-2018 12:08

CJbravo: No solution, sorry, but support from someone in a similar position. I’m keen to get a Yale lock and connect it to Home Assistant via either Z-Wave (I have the same USB stick as you) or Zigbee, too. I’ve seen a couple of Zigbee USB sticks talked about on the HA forum that could be another option for you.

I’ve been waiting for the Zigbee/Z-wave version of their 3109 to be released, which they told me at the 2017 Home Show would be in April 2018, but still nowhere to be seen. I even emailed Yale twice and didn’t even get a reply, so if we can’t get pre-sales support then we’ll be dreaming if we have any hope of post-sale support...

Yep, I'm also waiting for a Z-Wave compatible 3109. Who did you email? I'll be keen to start emailing them too..

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Reply # 2123335 10-Nov-2018 15:49

I'm using a Yale 'Touchscreen Deadbolt' with their Z-wave Module 1. I can connect it to my Fibaro z-wave controller fine, and lock/unlock it with some success - but not enough to be reliable. I have not been able to get it to synchronise its user database with Fibaro as its supposed to be able to do.

Has anyone tried the Z-wave Module 2?

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Reply # 2123340 10-Nov-2018 16:12

I installed yrd446 lock. Is a nice lock. The Bluetooth doesn't work very well. I'm happy with the lock.

Zwave module 2 doesn't exist yet.
The is zigbee module 2.
And zwave coming soon

At least that was the status 1 month ago.