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Topic # 24034 13-Jul-2008 19:23
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thats my question for today. When the iphone/itouch is in sleep mode/locked/whatever its called, and an instant messenger is connected (via wifi), does the wifi stay connected, or does it disconnect when it goes to sleep/standby?

Just a simple question from me, which could make or break my plans to get one  No pressure Laughing

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  Reply # 147505 13-Jul-2008 19:30
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Wi-Fi is usually turned off a little while after in standby.




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  Reply # 147509 13-Jul-2008 19:36
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Simple answer for your simple question: Yes it does

Complex answer: There is no official native instant messaging app. If you are using Apollo for instant messaging on a jailbroken Gen 1 device, or any similar app, the instant message program does not stay active properly in the background. So when you exit the program you get logged out (at least in my experience). This renders the Apps almost useless. Until someone creates an App that remains active and keeps you logged in then instant messaging isn't that great for the iPhone -not completely useless, just not great. I say not completely useless because you can still log in when you need to use it and they work fine, but when you exit the instant message connection doesn't stay alive.

As for emails, Yes the connection remains active when it is sleeping. Go to bed at night with the iPhone sleeping and if you have a Wi-Fi connection when you get up in the morning any emails recieved during the night will be there (assuming you have it set to auto check)

Hope that makes sense :)



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  Reply # 147528 13-Jul-2008 20:12
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thanks, that makes perfect sense.
AFAIK ptheres agile messenger available now from the app store which does this properly (im assuming it does, because its not free!). I just tried it on my n95 and was pleased to find it stays online while it was on standby, so i was rapt about that. i guess i will keep my n95 until 2.0 gets unlocked for vfnz then

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  Reply # 147698 14-Jul-2008 11:38
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Agile messenger? I can't find that on the App store.

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  Reply # 150307 22-Jul-2008 14:48
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Using iPhone 1.1.4

When I wake my iphone from sleep, it hasn't checked my email in the past 15 minutes as per the settings? If the phone's been sleeping for hours, the last check will be from when I last used it.

Also, when I ping the phone from my laptop, there is no response when the iPhone is asleep.

Is there any way to fix this? nzbullet's experience with iPhone 1 was that emails still got checked while the phone was on sleep.

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  Reply # 150795 23-Jul-2008 22:45
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Problems SOLVED (for me). Yahoo didn't seem to be working properly and I had to set it up semi-manually for it to work at all.

I tried someone else's Yahoo and it worked perfectly.

So I started to think about what was different about MY account.

I had an "alias" into my Yahoo inbox: <>@yahoo.com sharing the same inbox

The other account (and most accounts) don't. I don't use that alias any more so I deleted it - all worked fine.

Now I hope that this will also solve the "won't check email automatically" problem - the settings suggest that this is "push" email. Really?

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  Reply # 150822 24-Jul-2008 07:25
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while in sleep mode the iPhone kept buzzing when new email arrived via push email via mobile me over wifi

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  Reply # 150825 24-Jul-2008 07:34
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when I wake from sleep I note that my wifi symbol is a square followed by the appearance of the wifi symbol. Either it turns off and reconnects as I wake or it turns off when I sleep - I don't know.

Also my Yahoo! Free account is not pushing email. I have turned it off for now to try to at least get 15 min refreshes as that would beat no updates at all.

Is this because I have Edge/GPRS off? I read somewhere that when sleeping the iPhone turns off battery-draining wifi and uses edge instead??

I am using 1.1.4.

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  Reply # 150890 24-Jul-2008 10:51
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ahmad, I cannot comment on 1.1.4 as only have 3G (was response to original post).  
In this case all cell data was switched off with DUMMY APN.
Wifi was on, and phone was asleep (well in standby with screen off).  Mail arrives and ding and buzz on iPhone about 1 second earlier than my Macbook Pro in the same room. 

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  Reply # 150891 24-Jul-2008 10:58
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OK, quick test with AOL app.
If AOL running, and the iPhone is in standby it is still connected, and when iChat messages arrive it beeps away.

If you are running another app, AOL does not run in the background, but it does retain that your status is online. Therefore the other party can keep sending you messages but you do not get the beep.  As soon as you activate the app you get the beeps and shows you the number of messages in the bottom IM icon.


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  Reply # 151349 25-Jul-2008 16:18
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The answer to this is that the wifi disconnects after a set period only when the device is on battery power.

If you've got it plugged into the dock, it will remain connected to the wifi and active, even in "sleep" mode (i.e. with the screen off).

In battery mode, GPRS/3G data will activate only for push data and when the fetch data timer expires.




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  Reply # 151354 25-Jul-2008 16:30
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thanks

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