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Topic # 24580 28-Jul-2008 12:21
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I have an iPhone 1.1.4, with default VFNZ SIM that was set up for Vodafone Live and was working on my previous phone to connect to VF Live and trademe/facebook/etc.

Now that SIM is in my iPhone - do I have to change anything to use the $1/day casual data rate?

If I was to later upgrade to 2.0 firmware on THIS phone, would I then have to change the APN somehow to use the casual data rate?

I don't even know where my APN settings are to be found on the iPhone 1.x




P.S. Is the new $1/day casual data rate available on You Choose and other plans too or just prepaid?

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  Reply # 152071 28-Jul-2008 14:44
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ahmad: Now that SIM is in my iPhone - do I have to change anything to use the $1/day casual data rate?

If I was to later upgrade to 2.0 firmware on THIS phone, would I then have to change the APN somehow to use the casual data rate?

I don't even know where my APN settings are to be found on the iPhone 1.x

P.S. Is the new $1/day casual data rate available on You Choose and other plans too or just prepaid?

Yeah you will have to change your APN settings.... as I remember you just need to go into Settings>General>Network and the APN settings are in there.

www.vodafone.net.nz no username and no password.

As for 2.0 it's a different setup I just had it working... pretty easy.

Just use unlockit.co.nz





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  Reply # 152076 28-Jul-2008 14:49
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I went to that APN part of settings as you advised, and yes, it was blank.

Which raises the question....

One night when I reset the setting of the phone and I forgot to turn off "EDGE" it used up 400kb of data before I remembered and I was charged $4.

How was that achieved if the APN wasn't set up??

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  Reply # 152080 28-Jul-2008 14:58
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ahmad: I went to that APN part of settings as you advised, and yes, it was blank.



Which raises the question....



One night when I reset the setting of the phone and I forgot to turn off "EDGE" it used up 400kb of data before I remembered and I was charged $4.



How was that achieved if the APN wasn't set up??


As.. it seems that even an invalid APN (on GPRS only) will allow data..

the only way (at the moment) is to set http://www.iphone-vodafone.net.nz as the APN to disable Data (this is being discussed on another thread at the moment (unlockit.co.nz) one. (or use the disable EDGE button on 1.1.4)

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  Reply # 152081 28-Jul-2008 14:59
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ahmad: I went to that APN part of settings as you advised, and yes, it was blank.



Which raises the question....



One night when I reset the setting of the phone and I forgot to turn off "EDGE" it used up 400kb of data before I remembered and I was charged $4.



How was that achieved if the APN wasn't set up??


If APN field is blank the network will default it to www.vodafone.net.nz

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  Reply # 152082 28-Jul-2008 14:59
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ahmad: I went to that APN part of settings as you advised, and yes, it was blank.

Which raises the question....

One night when I reset the setting of the phone and I forgot to turn off "EDGE" it used up 400kb of data before I remembered and I was charged $4.

How was that achieved if the APN wasn't set up??

It might just be because they let you use data when you have a blank APN, this could be a good thing. But the iPhone was at some stage using data periodically.... just pinging out to the internet. I was getting charged as much as $2/per hour for under a KB of traffic at one point. That seemed to stop at some point, and it was sporadic. I don't really know who to blame... but if VF weren't absolutely fleecing us for data, I doubt anyone would have noticed.



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  Reply # 152085 28-Jul-2008 15:02
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I'm not happy with the $1 to phone the help desk if they don't give me a more detailed history of my account than JUST a balance.

By not giving me information about recent charges, I am left wondering if I am being charged correctly.

If they had a basic history detailing my charges, at least I'd have some faith I'm being billed correctly.

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  Reply # 152090 28-Jul-2008 15:09
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ahmad: I'm not happy with the $1 to phone the help desk if they don't give me a more detailed history of my account than JUST a balance.

By not giving me information about recent charges, I am left wondering if I am being charged correctly.

If they had a basic history detailing my charges, at least I'd have some faith I'm being billed correctly.

I heard a rumor that there was a thing called the Internet that would allow companies to provide this sort of information. Maybe in the future we'll be able to drive our flying cars and access this sort of information on on our fax machines?

But seriously... Vodafone is actually moving in this direction... if very slowly... it's only been 15+years... but at least I can see my balance online.

Also bear in mind.... VF wants you to go on account so they make more money out of you... and having an account and a detailed bill is part of the incentive.



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  Reply # 152097 28-Jul-2008 15:21
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leemajors:
ahmad: I'm not happy with the $1 to phone the help desk if they don't give me a more detailed history of my account than JUST a balance.

By not giving me information about recent charges, I am left wondering if I am being charged correctly.

If they had a basic history detailing my charges, at least I'd have some faith I'm being billed correctly.

I heard a rumor that there was a thing called the Internet that would allow companies to provide this sort of information. Maybe in the future we'll be able to drive our flying cars and access this sort of information on on our fax machines?

But seriously... Vodafone is actually moving in this direction... if very slowly... it's only been 15+years... but at least I can see my balance online.

Also bear in mind.... VF wants you to go on account so they make more money out of you... and having an account and a detailed bill is part of the incentive.

I don't want a detailed bill.

List of charges for a 7 day period would be enough.

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  Reply # 152098 28-Jul-2008 15:25
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ahmad:
leemajors:
ahmad: I'm not happy with the $1 to phone the help desk if they don't give me a more detailed history of my account than JUST a balance.

By not giving me information about recent charges, I am left wondering if I am being charged correctly.

If they had a basic history detailing my charges, at least I'd have some faith I'm being billed correctly.

I heard a rumor that there was a thing called the Internet that would allow companies to provide this sort of information. Maybe in the future we'll be able to drive our flying cars and access this sort of information on on our fax machines?

But seriously... Vodafone is actually moving in this direction... if very slowly... it's only been 15+years... but at least I can see my balance online.

Also bear in mind.... VF wants you to go on account so they make more money out of you... and having an account and a detailed bill is part of the incentive.


I don't want a detailed bill.

List of charges for a 7 day period would be enough.

I know how you feel. It seems like it would be so easy to do... I wish they would do it.



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  Reply # 152099 28-Jul-2008 15:28
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Apparently they have it in Australia.

IMO it's unacceptable, prepaid or not, to charge us to query a bill/account balance/charge if they are not giving us some FREE access (self-service ok by me) to details about what I have been billed for.

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  Reply # 152104 28-Jul-2008 15:40
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ahmad: Apparently they have it in Australia.

IMO it's unacceptable, prepaid or not, to charge us to query a bill/account balance/charge if they are not giving us some FREE access (self-service ok by me) to details about what I have been billed for.

Yeah... the way it's set up now is pretty bad. You put money in and vodafone could just use it up... you have no way of knowing. They should have to give you access to every transaction that takes place for 6 months... I had $150 on my account at one stage and was really nervous about it just disappearing... because of an error or data getting used without me knowing.


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  Reply # 152111 28-Jul-2008 15:52
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I just talked to someone at vodafone..

GPRS with a invalid APN working is "as designed"

So if you want to disable GPRS and 3G Data on a 3G Iphone set APN to www.iphone-vodafone.net.nz (without Iphone dataplan)
If you want to disable GRPS and 3G data on a 3G iPhone (in GPRS data area with Iphone Data plan). You cannot (unless setting it to www.vodafone.net.nz disables it)!?

Can someone try?

Thanks


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  Reply # 152113 28-Jul-2008 15:58
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LennonNZ: I just talked to someone at vodafone..

GRPS with a invalid APN working is "as designed"

So if you want to disable GRPS and 3G Data on a 3G Iphone set APN to www.iphone-vodafone.net.nz (without Iphone dataplan)
If you want to disable GRPS and 3G data on a 3G iPhone (in GPRS data area with Iphone Data plan). You cannot (unless setting it to www.vodafone.net.nz disables it)!?

That is evil. An invalid APN should not give you data.

Sorry I can't check... I'm on a 2G iphone.

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