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#239381 15-Jul-2018 12:01

I am selling my PC which i built last year mostly for video editing. Reason for selling now is upgraded to MAC as few friends suggested MAC is better.

Most of the components have warranty as everything purchased in Sep 2017 and has standard 3 year warranty.

I spent around NZD $4000 to build. Below are the details.

I am expecting around NZD $3000. PICKUP in AUCKLAND CBD OR WEST

Intel i7-6800k Core X series. - Cores 6, Threads -12, Base frequency 3.4 GHz, Turbo 3.6GHz, Cache 15MB

Intel - BXTS13X Water Liquid CPU Cooling Thermal Solution

Asus ROG Strix - X99 - Gaming Mainboard

Memory - Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (1x16GB) DDR4 DRAM 2400MHz (PC4 19200) C14 Memory Kit - Black

Intel 600p - 256GB M.2 -SSD

ASUS ROG STRIX - GTX 1070 Graphics Card

1TB Seagate HDD

NZXT CASE

NZXT PSU 600w

AOC LCD 21.5" FULL HD MONITOR - TFT22W90PS

MOUSE - LOGITECH - G502 PROTEUS SPECTURM

KEYBOARD - LOGITECH G213 Prodigy GAMING

If needed I can post images

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#2056560 15-Jul-2018 17:15

How can a Mac be better?

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#2056596 15-Jul-2018 18:36

This PC was more of gaming and iMac Pro is faster and superior with starting 8Cores upgradeable to 18 cores, VEGA graphics 64 is 16GB.

Below is the link

https://www.apple.com/nz/imac-pro/specs/

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#2056599 15-Jul-2018 18:46

I know two things about photo and video editing

1. Heavily rely of cores and clock speed. Cores more important than clock speed.

2. Hardly ever makes use of the GPU other than when it's trying to show you stuff on your monitor. And that there may be a ceiling effect at gtx 1070. There have been reports of AMD gpus causing bugs and glitches, probably because the softwares were designed with nvidia as their main testing gpus.

3. I heard that in non server tasks, Xeons are inferior in every aspect when matched with a comparable CPU.

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#2056601 15-Jul-2018 18:51

But hey, I have no right to tell you how to spend your money, so if you want a Mac pro because of peer pressure, get it and be satisfied.

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#2056613 15-Jul-2018 19:11

Am I blind or does this PC kit have its potential memory bandwidth more than halved?

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#2056621 15-Jul-2018 19:22

You could get another identical stick to get dual channel , and run xmp to OC ... But the real world tests won't get you double speeds ...iirc

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#2056645 15-Jul-2018 20:19

There is no definitive answer that an iMac Pro is better than a well equipped PC for video editing. It's all about the right tool for the job. Obviously if you want to use Final Cut at all then apple is your only choice but I've been a professional video editor for over 10 years, using various editing and colour grading software and have only once used a Mac for a specific job. Macs do have some really fast storage available with thunderbolt arrays but they are very expensive.

If you're using the abode suite of tools then you will want to check out what sort of GPU you will have as they do rely on it for rendering purposes.

I'd do some research into exactly how you want use your computer and what software you want to use before making any PC vs Mac choice.

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#2056683 15-Jul-2018 20:41

Not true. For Adobe, GPU helps. But CPU is king. You can Google millions of YouTube videos showing this.

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#2056692 15-Jul-2018 20:49

Batman: Not true. For Adobe, GPU helps. But CPU is king. You can Google millions of YouTube videos showing this.

That's what I meant, CPU power is what you want. But you still need a decent GPU especially if you're working in 4K etc.l and have external monitoring. Adobe do some great stuff where you can be working smoothly whilst the Adobe encoder is also ripping through some batch encodes in the background without losing too much, it's pretty impressive.

Again, it's all about the right tool for what you want to do.

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#2056694 15-Jul-2018 20:55

CutCutCut:
If you're using the abode suite of tools then you will want to check out what sort of GPU you will have as they do rely on it for rendering purposes
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They do not rely on GPU for rendering. CPU does most of the rendering work.

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#2056722 15-Jul-2018 21:58

you could tryout mac osx high sierra on your hardware others have had success with that motherboard.

https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/success-full-high-sierra-on-asus-rog-strix-x99-core-i7-6850-nvidia-gtx770.252225/

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#2056725 15-Jul-2018 22:04

Batman:
CutCutCut:
If you're using the abode suite of tools then you will want to check out what sort of GPU you will have as they do rely on it for rendering purposes
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They do not rely on GPU for rendering. CPU does most of the rendering work.

While you're inside after effects for example you're right, you need the CPU to build a composition. But once you send it to the render queue it makes a real difference to be able to let those exports go in the background, while you continue working. It's all about how you use the software if these things are important to you. Of course you don't have to believe me, is just my real life experience using the tools.

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#2056740 15-Jul-2018 23:06

cruxis:

you could tryout mac osx high sierra on your hardware others have had success with that motherboard.

https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/success-full-high-sierra-on-asus-rog-strix-x99-core-i7-6850-nvidia-gtx770.252225/

That's exactly what I'd do too. Hackintosh, hard.

I have extensive experience as IT manager in a TV production studio with both platforms in-house. The Mac product was initially purchased because incoming hires had learnt on the platform & were somewhat brainwashed into believing that they were incapable of using a PC.

Once they figured out that Premiere Pro is identical on both, & that the PC's we were running were 3x more powerful & the PC peeps were packing up & heading home while they were wait wait waiting for renders to complete, their mindset magically changed. (But they'd still buy 13" MacBook Pro's for emailing & shopping though. & for using in cafes too)

That existing hardware, with 3 more sticks of RAM, another 1070 in SLi & some judicious tuning & specific setup tweaks would romp through 4K video editing with ease. Way more ease than an iMac Pro IMHO.

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#2056744 15-Jul-2018 23:21

CutCutCut:
Batman:
CutCutCut:

If you're using the abode suite of tools then you will want to check out what sort of GPU you will have as they do rely on it for rendering purposes
>

They do not rely on GPU for rendering. CPU does most of the rendering work.

While you're inside after effects for example you're right, you need the CPU to build a composition. But once you send it to the render queue it makes a real difference to be able to let those exports go in the background, while you continue working. It's all about how you use the software if these things are important to you. Of course you don't have to believe me, is just my real life experience using the tools.

Ok, if you say so! [I only read and watch youtube .... not a big timer on video editing, but I do give it a try, get confused at the buttons, never finish projects. But everytime I look at the GPU % usage .... 0, 0, 0, 4!, 0, 0, 0 ... once in a blue moon - 8!]

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#2056745 15-Jul-2018 23:23

1024kb:

cruxis:

you could tryout mac osx high sierra on your hardware others have had success with that motherboard.

https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/success-full-high-sierra-on-asus-rog-strix-x99-core-i7-6850-nvidia-gtx770.252225/

That's exactly what I'd do too. Hackintosh, hard.

I have extensive experience as IT manager in a TV production studio with both platforms in-house. The Mac product was initially purchased because incoming hires had learnt on the platform & were somewhat brainwashed into believing that they were incapable of using a PC.

Once they figured out that Premiere Pro is identical on both, & that the PC's we were running were 3x more powerful & the PC peeps were packing up & heading home while they were wait wait waiting for renders to complete, their mindset magically changed. (But they'd still buy 13" MacBook Pro's for emailing & shopping though. & for using in cafes too)

That existing hardware, with 3 more sticks of RAM, another 1070 in SLi & some judicious tuning & specific setup tweaks would romp through 4K video editing with ease. Way more ease than an iMac Pro IMHO.

I think we should get back on topic.

OP wants to justify his new toy, let him sell this and get the dam toy!

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