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#248977 18-Apr-2019 08:59
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Hi all,


 


I'm looking to upgrade my 2010 era PC.   (First gen i7 860, 16GB RAM, GTX650 graphics etc)


Debating going full box swap replacement, or upgrading my existing internals (new motherboard/ram/cpu/gpu and hopefully use same oem power supply/case.)


 


Before I commit to something I thought I'd check here. 


Anyone know of any leads I should chase up, or has anyone upgraded to brand new and is sitting on spare mid spec hardware now?


Looking for the likes of:



  • GTX1060 GPU - 4GB RAM min

  • i7 (ideally 4xxx series min)

  • 16GB RAM with the ability to increase to 32GB easily

  • 240GB SSD a bonus but not necessary



Main desktop purpose is video and photo editing on adobe software.


Budget around $600 - $700 depending on specs/wife 😂


Thanks as always.


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  #2220377 18-Apr-2019 09:08
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A little off topic, but afaik there weren't all that many 5th generation Broadwell desktop chips available as Intel focused on laptops & OEMs that generation. As a result you'd have better luck going 4th gen or Skylake/6th gen as far as finding used parts around.





 




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  #2220385 18-Apr-2019 09:21
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Peppery:

 

A little off topic, but afaik there weren't all that many 5th generation Broadwell desktop chips available as Intel focused on laptops & OEMs that generation. As a result you'd have better luck going 4th gen or Skylake/6th gen as far as finding used parts around.

 

 

 

 

Appreciate this.  Problem with upgrading every 5 years or so is everything has marched on from when I last looked at this stuff.  The info is all good to help come back up to speed.

 

 

 

Have updated first post to say i7 4xxx series min

 

 

 

Cheers!


 
 
 
 


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  #2220450 18-Apr-2019 10:07
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No specific leads for you to chase up but if you have a Qcard you can often put a motherboard or GPU (or both) on 12 months interest free with PB Tech. Then you can chuck in a bunch of other stuff with that. A week ago they ran an 18 months interest free and no repayments deal so I ordered a bunch of componentry. I can now drip feed payments and easily have it paid off before the 18 months is up without no adverse effect on the household budget.

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  #2220557 18-Apr-2019 13:16
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Does it need to be an Intel processor?

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  #2220568 18-Apr-2019 13:21
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https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=77&topicid=248794

Seen that? Ticks all your boxes except the 1060



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  #2220573 18-Apr-2019 13:31
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ojo: https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=77&topicid=248794

Seen that? Ticks all your boxes except the 1060

 

 

 

Yep, checking pickup options with MacUser as we speak, but it's SOLD unfortunately.

Checking if anyone had any guts (motherboard/cpu/ram) separately before committing to a new box.

 

 

 

 




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  #2220633 18-Apr-2019 14:19
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lachlanw: Does it need to be an Intel processor?

 


I'm not that sure really, have only really used them previously.

I've got a lead on a Ryzen 2600 with the larger 6GB RAM GTX 1060 GPU.
How would that compare with the i7 4770 for example?

Not as worried about intel vs AMD CPU, but have repeated warnings and past experience with nvidia cards being more compatible with adobe premiere etc.


 
 
 
 


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  #2220652 18-Apr-2019 14:51
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AMD offers great value at the moment, and most importantly more cores. I'd be hesitate to buy older Intel chips at the moment given they're at best 4 cores and 8 threads. I think we starting to see moderns games etc benefit from the extra cores and this will only increase.

 

Keep an eye on this Reddit thread, with that budget you might just have enough to get some older AMD parts new,


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  #2220673 18-Apr-2019 15:31
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I am still running a i7-860. Got it overclocked to 3.6GHz with hyper threading on and it runs like an absolute charm. Was able to get 3.8GHz but my cooling situation wasn't able to deal with that at the required voltage to make it stable. 

Seems to perform somewhere between an i7-3770 and i7-4770 according to benchmarks at least and doesn't cost anything. Well a little bit extra on the power bill I guess. 

 

 

 

The 2600 Zen should run rings around the 4770 for multitasking, for in game performance with a 1060, probably no noticeable difference. 




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  #2220674 18-Apr-2019 15:34
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wratterus:

 

I am still running a i7-860. Got it overclocked to 3.6GHz with hyper threading on and it runs like an absolute charm. Was able to get 3.8GHz but my cooling situation wasn't able to deal with that at the required voltage to make it stable. 

Seems to perform somewhere between an i7-3770 and i7-4770 according to benchmarks at least and doesn't cost anything. Well a little bit extra on the power bill I guess. 

 

 

 

The 2600 Zen should run rings around the 4770 for multitasking, for in game performance with a 1060, probably no noticeable difference. 

 

 

 

 

That's potentially plan B.  Crank it up until it breaks.

New replacement box means I can sell the current one and recoup some costs, so that appeals a bit.


 Ryzen 2600 does seem significantly newer than the i7 4770 era I was looking at.


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  #2220675 18-Apr-2019 15:38
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That was my thought. I needed some extra performance but wasn't keen to fork out for new components yet - OC gives a big extra boost (the i7-870 overclocks nicely as long as you have a decent board & cooler) and for me now has been going probably 18 months without issue. 

 

Components of that age are just worth peanuts, so probably worth more to run it into the ground that to try & recoup some costs - that was my reasoning anyway.

 

Only thing to think about re case is front USB3 ports really - if you want that, you need a new case, otherwise there is no reason the rest of your gear couldn't go another round. 


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  #2220686 18-Apr-2019 15:59
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Do consider replacing the psu. Even the good ones last around 7years ish for good power delivery. Its also another factor when overclocking, not just the motherboard power delivery and cpu quality

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  #2220706 18-Apr-2019 16:45
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wratterus:


Only thing to think about re case is front USB3 ports really - if you want that, you need a new case, otherwise there is no reason the rest of your gear couldn't go another round. 


You can always get a box with USB 3 ports that slots into an optical drive bay. No other use for those bays these days.



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  #2221071 19-Apr-2019 11:53
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Found something via Facebook Marketplace and paid this morning.

Thanks for all the pointers.

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  #2221079 19-Apr-2019 12:02
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PANiCnz:

 

AMD offers great value at the moment, and most importantly more cores. I'd be hesitate to buy older Intel chips at the moment given they're at best 4 cores and 8 threads. I think we starting to see moderns games etc benefit from the extra cores and this will only increase.

 

Keep an eye on this Reddit thread, with that budget you might just have enough to get some older AMD parts new,

 

 

By far the vast majority of games, even modern ones, mostly care about single threaded performance. 

 

You have to scroll a VERY long way down this list to find anything AMD. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

 

 





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