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Topic # 173291 18-May-2015 12:43
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Hi all,

I would like thoughts on three units for comparison, I need to know based on the following factors which is likely to be a good solid purchase;
1. Ease of use - for going from map to menu and back and manually entering an address to navigate to.
2. Responsiveness of screen - the easier it responds the better when using it.
3. Accuracy -  navigation and timing need to be as accurate as possible.
4. Traffic - how far in advance will I know of delays and how well does the unit do at changing your route to a better one.
5. Refresh rate - I need the mapping to be as fluid as possible no jumpiness or lag in the update as driving.
6. Australia and NZ compatible - I need it to work NZ wide and throughout Brisbane, Sunshine Coast, Gold Coast and maybe other areas of Queensland.

Traffic is a nice feature that if it works I would find useful, nothing worse than travelling what was the best route only to come across road works or an accident and be held up, but navigation is more important as that is the basis of the device.  Also accurate current speed limits, on this though, how does this adapt to the changing speed limits in Wellington.

I have been looking at the units available at Harvey Norman Garmin Nuvi 55LM although this unit does not have traffic the Garmin Nuvi 55LMT does, the Tomtom Via225, this does not have traffic either, and the Tomtom Go50 with has traffic via smartphone.  I don't plan on using mobile data in Australia at this stage.

Basically I want a 5inch minimum screen at a good price.  I had a go with a couple of Garmin's and Tomtom's at DSE as they have them going there as opposed to not going at Harvey Norman, I was hoping to find one which had the best sensitivity / responsiveness of the screen but it kept changing one minute the Tomtom was better next it was the Garmin, so came away not to decided on that side, but as for the menu option they had a Tomtom Go600 which was nice to use for the menu side... but out of my price range really, I don't want to spend the earth on a GPS, it will be used for our Holiday to Australia and travelling to new places around NZ to ensure we can get to where we are going without getting too lost, not that this does not add to the adventure, but it can be frustrating and add to the anxiety in the car when all the family are in there and we may have been on the road for few hours already.  Also I am likely to use it as an always up to date map for going into Wellignton City on my own so I don't get lost.  I don't need it for my every day commute.

Last but not least, what ever happened to Navman, other than what I read about the company I have noticed they have dropped lower on the market.

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  Reply # 1307136 18-May-2015 12:55
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TomTom is the best for NZ.

I use Go 500. I love the traffic updates (via phone bluetooth).







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  Reply # 1307190 18-May-2015 13:50
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Thanks, and from what I see, the unit isn't very data hungry either, what about Australia? And if I forgo the traffic updates how good is the Via225?

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1307251 18-May-2015 15:03
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I recently bought a new on for the better-half, ended up having to take it back and swap it twice as it seems most new ones have bluetooth traffic updates but don't do hands free calling via the device and they are not very clear about the lack of that feature on the side of the box. seems pointless to not have it. ended up getting her a navman (her previous one was tomtom) but all the new ones are so similar to use that it didnt take to much use to get used to it. I will see if I can find the model numbers tonight and post the deets.

also; every time I see someone mention 'which GPS is best?' etc...I always think...why do you need an entire Global Positioning Satellite? It wont fit inside your car ...yes...I'm one of those people.




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  Reply # 1307260 18-May-2015 15:20
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I'm sure I read somewhere that the new TomTom units have lifetime free worldwide maps and data roaming. They would seem to be the best answer

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  Reply # 1307264 18-May-2015 15:27
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fizzychicken:

also; every time I see someone mention 'which GPS is best?' etc...I always think...why do you need an entire Global Positioning Satellite? It wont fit inside your car ...yes...I'm one of those people.


I thought that the S in GPS was for system, therefore, it's not just 1 satellite, it's the whole system. There are compeating systems as well, perhaps that was what was being questioned?

Also one of those people :-)

Oh yeah - pays to get a GPS navigation device with lifetime map updates. The one we have access to offered only 1 update (and, it wasn't done) so will gradually become less useful as changes are made to the maps. For NZ maps, may have to see about http://nzopengps.org/.

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  Reply # 1307266 18-May-2015 15:29
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TomTom.  Wouldn't buy anything else now.  








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  Reply # 1307267 18-May-2015 15:32
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I use the Tom Tom app on my iPhone and to be honest, it's easy and accurate and often updated (for free, for life) so i would tend to err on the side of Tom Tom for any stand-alone GPS unit too. 




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  Reply # 1307274 18-May-2015 15:41
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fizzychicken: I recently bought a new on for the better-half, ended up having to take it back and swap it twice as it seems most new ones have bluetooth traffic updates but don't do hands free calling via the device and they are not very clear about the lack of that feature on the side of the box. seems pointless to not have it. ended up getting her a navman (her previous one was tomtom) but all the new ones are so similar to use that it didnt take to much use to get used to it. I will see if I can find the model numbers tonight and post the deets.

also; every time I see someone mention 'which GPS is best?' etc...I always think...why do you need an entire Global Positioning Satellite? It wont fit inside your car ...yes...I'm one of those people.


Thank you.  The whole Bluetooth thing I think confuses people.  I have been into different stores now and I am surprised at the limited knowledge around GPS devices given their relative popularity.  I would have thought there would be more training for the sales staff around what is what.  I have managed to inform some sales staff with my research, but I still was left with a couple of questions I could not answer and neither could they.

For me I like the menu, screen layout and search function of the Tomtom, the screens responsiveness is much the same as a similar Garmin (price and features), I like the IQ routes as it seems it will get me there via the best route all the time and keep me informed.  I can buy the Via225 and get this or go to the Go 50 and get live traffic updates when I pair with my smartphone (but not hands free) and the data consumption is not too bad, or at least wouldn't be for me  In the middle I can get the via 280, pair with my phone and the GPS doubles as a hands free unit.  The Garmin Nuvi 55LMT has traffic updates via FM aerial in the power cord so no data charges and they claim no loss of functionality in 'no signal' areas on your phone, although I read elsewhere that even FM radio transmission can have black spots.  Also the best FM transmission of traffic updates and alerts is SUNA, and this is not one of the listed Garmin units that support this, so where it gets the data from and how accurate I do not know.  Based on this I was going with the Tomtom Go 50, but also the Garmin Nuvi 55LMT was a next bet, I did look at the Navman Ezy 255LMT, but Navman seems to have dropped down behind Garmin and Tomtom.

first and foremost I need the best for navigation and if I can get traffic too it would be great, but I am not going to pay more for traffic that is unreliable.



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  Reply # 1307641 19-May-2015 09:54
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shk292:
I'm sure I read somewhere that the new TomTom units have lifetime free worldwide maps and data roaming. They would seem to be the best answer


There is a model that offers lifetime world maps which is a high end high price tag device and given I don't need it isn't worth the outlay but I believe this will become a new trend with Tomtom, but lifetime NZ and Aussie maps are now standard it would seem in almost all devices.

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  Reply # 1307645 19-May-2015 10:12
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Just saw this at Noel Leeming.

Go Live 600 for $299. That is a good deal! The difference between Go 500/Go 600 with Go 50/60 is the capacitive screen. Go 50/60 uses resistive screen.

I would definitely get Go Live 600.

To OP, I also have Via 280 in the other car. It is fine -  as well. Prior to his, I also have another TomTom 120 I think. I used it for 6 years - it is still working fine now but the screen is faded after being in the sun for that long.

Via 225 also comes with lifetime maps.

fizzychicken:.... new ones have bluetooth traffic updates but don't do hands free calling.....


Almost virtually new cars come with bluetooth - which is safer. It is a redundant feature.







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  Reply # 1307837 19-May-2015 15:37
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Thanks for all your posts so far, I am building a better picture, still not clear though.

To be up front, I went in with limited knowledge and having done limited research on the devices and options and all I really knew was that it was either Tomtom or Garmin, although a friend told me today he loves Navman.  I let myself be lead by the sales staff and got convinced to buy the Tomtom Via 225.  Not satisfied I had the right one I started researching and this forum.  It is currently unopened till I have made my mind up, and I am sure I will be able to exchange it.  All I really had was a budget, or really that I just didn't want o spend more than I need on it. 

I still need it to be accurate and easy to use.  I want to be able to go from map to menu, to search and back with ease, clear guidance, accurate guidance, easy to set up and easy to see and hear when driving.  If traffic is accurate and available in most areas then I would like this too, but if it hasn't yet been fully developed or has limited coverage then I don't see the point just yet.  I wont compromise on accuracy or clarity or ease of use for traffic but if I can get one that does all that it would be great.

So far the Tomtom Go 50 seems the easiest menu wise, I like the IQ routes and you can get traffic via smartphone data, and data consumption is low, especially given how much I will use it anyway.  I don't want to spend $300 on one just yet, this is my first unit, and I am not sure how much it will be used and therefore cant justify spending lots on a high end device, I want to buy the best I can for $200 give or take a bit and see where we go.

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  Reply # 1307882 19-May-2015 16:52
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GPS = Global positioning satallite

you want a GPSr (receiver)

Anyway, i've owned several Garmin automotive GPSr's and would have reccommended them for the fact that open source maps can be easily uploaded to them meaning you arn't tied to buying the updates from Garmin.

I recent past dealings with Garmin have put me off, I had purcashed a unit with Lifetime maps....but the maps just weren't been up updated, other newer models were getting updates.

Anyway the bluetooth side of it failed so I sent it back, after about 2 months of been away I got on to Garmin and they sent out a refurbished unit with outdated maps and no way without paying more to update them.

In the end had to play the CGA card, ended up with a brand new, newer model with lifetime maps.....but the whole ordeal has put me off Garmin :(

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  Reply # 1307894 19-May-2015 17:44
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GPS = Global Positioning System which is run by the United States Department of Defence.  

It comprises three segments, The control segment which has ground stations linked to the Master Control Station in Colorado Springs, the Space segment with the satellites, and the User segment being the GPS receivers.

For my money I'd just download and use the Here App on my phone.




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  Reply # 1307896 19-May-2015 17:51
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No doubt GPS apps on a smartphones work well, the big drawback is they suck the power.

Nothing like a dedicated GPSr

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  Reply # 1307898 19-May-2015 17:57
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gregmcc:

No doubt GPS apps on a smartphones work well, the big drawback is they suck the power.

Nothing like a dedicated GPSr


I don't find them too bad, for a longer trips I use a power cable plugged into the 12v power plug AKA cigarette lighter, which is what you'd be doing with a dedicated GPS anyway.

I don't see the need to have a phone and a GPS, you're better off putting the money for the GPS into a better phone




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