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Topic # 191061 21-Jan-2016 21:24
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Hi all

 

I am sure many of you guys on Fibre have got this modem (Netcomm NF4V). What I am trying to do: I am trying to set up the modem so that I can use a different router (DLINK DIR269 AC1750) for the wifi and not the Netcomm. Why? The DLINK's wifi is way faster. Since fibre has been connected, the mode has shifted away from my main computer so I cant get on a wired connection. 

 

From my understanding, I am supposed to set up the modem in bridge mode so that the WAN connection just passes through. I have tried to do this but I cannot find any decent guides for doing this. But since I am sure there are many of you that have already done this, I was hoping someone can lend me a hand.

 

I have 2 questions:

 

1. Would my phoneline be affected (I currently need to connect this to the Netcomm).

 

2. How can I set up my Netcomm so that it lets the DLINK do all the routing (I would prefer to do this instead of setting it up as an access point. My NAS for backing up things and running Plex would also be connected to the DLINK.

 

 

 

Thanks.

 

 


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  Reply # 1476441 21-Jan-2016 21:36
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The NF4V can't do what you want it to do in bridge mode, because it's neither designed for this nor needed. In the DSL world this is a supported scenario, with UFB it's not supported because it's a totally illogical setup.

 

If you want your phone to continue on your NF4V this needs to stay as your primary router.

 

If you want to use the D-Link for WiFI disable DHCP on your D-Link, give it a static IP on the same subnet range as your NF4V gives out so you can log in, and plug a cable from the LAN port on the NF4V to the LAN on the D-Link.

 

You could replace your NF4V with the D-Link providing it's UFB compatible (you'd need to know if your ISP and/or D-Link require VLAN tagging) but will lose your phone service unless your NF4V supports sitting behind an other router with DHCP enabled on the WAN. You will be totally on your own with such a setup as your ISP isn't going to provide support.

 

 

 

 

 

 




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  Reply # 1476444 21-Jan-2016 21:55
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sbiddle:

 

The NF4V can't do what you want it to do in bridge mode, because it's neither designed for this nor needed. In the DSL world this is a supported scenario, with UFB it's not supported because it's a totally illogical setup.

 

If you want your phone to continue on your NF4V this needs to stay as your primary router.

 

If you want to use the D-Link for WiFI disable DHCP on your D-Link, give it a static IP on the same subnet range as your NF4V gives out so you can log in, and plug a cable from the LAN port on the NF4V to the LAN on the D-Link.

 

You could replace your NF4V with the D-Link providing it's UFB compatible (you'd need to know if your ISP and/or D-Link require VLAN tagging) but will lose your phone service unless your NF4V supports sitting behind an other router with DHCP enabled on the WAN. You will be totally on your own with such a setup as your ISP isn't going to provide support.

 

 

Ahh that sucks. I bought this modem/router last year just because it was UFB compatible. And then slingshot shocked me by saying that the phone line needs to be connected from the Netcomm. This DLINK does not have the phone jacks unfortunately, but it did say it was UFB ready. So there is a ray of hope there. The NF4V does not have great wifi signal and I really need to figure out what I can do for this to work

 

 


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  Reply # 1476447 21-Jan-2016 22:07
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sbiddle: If you want your phone to continue on your NF4V this needs to stay as your primary router.

 

If you want to use the D-Link for WiFI disable DHCP on your D-Link, give it a static IP on the same subnet range as your NF4V gives out so you can log in, and plug a cable from the LAN port on the NF4V to the LAN on the D-Link.

 

This is more-or-less what I'm doing; I've got the WiFi on my (ISP-supplied) NF4V turned off; and my other "router" (which I'm using for WiFi and Network Printing) I've turned DHCP off and have plugged one of it's LAN ports (via the house's structured cabling) into an LAN port on the NF4V.  Phone still connected to NF4V as normal.

 

Krishant007:  My NAS for backing up things and running Plex would also be connected to the DLINK.

 

...and I've also got my NAS connected to the "other" router for speed off the WiFi link.

 

My NF4V provides DHCP leases and is the primary router / gateway; the "other" router doesn't have it's WAN port connected to anything and doesn't route at all - but it does "bridge" between it's WiFi and the ethernet ports.


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  Reply # 1476448 21-Jan-2016 22:09
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Why not use the NF4V as your router, and attach your other router as a wifi AP? That should work just fine.

 

Disable WiFi on the NF4V.  Disable DHCP on your other router.  Plug a LAN port from other router into a LAN port on the NF4V.

 

Also make sure they don't have the same LAN IP address or you will have problems ;)




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  Reply # 1476452 21-Jan-2016 22:16
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ubergeeknz:

 

Why not use the NF4V as your router, and attach your other router as a wifi AP? That should work just fine.

 

Disable WiFi on the NF4V.  Disable DHCP on your other router.  Plug a LAN port from other router into a LAN port on the NF4V.

 

Also make sure they don't have the same LAN IP address or you will have problems ;)

 

 

 

 

I thought of this as well - but my Dlink is much more powerful router and I wanted to use its capabilities (including app control as well).


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  Reply # 1476476 22-Jan-2016 06:14
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Krishant007:

 

sbiddle:

 

The NF4V can't do what you want it to do in bridge mode, because it's neither designed for this nor needed. In the DSL world this is a supported scenario, with UFB it's not supported because it's a totally illogical setup.

 

If you want your phone to continue on your NF4V this needs to stay as your primary router.

 

If you want to use the D-Link for WiFI disable DHCP on your D-Link, give it a static IP on the same subnet range as your NF4V gives out so you can log in, and plug a cable from the LAN port on the NF4V to the LAN on the D-Link.

 

You could replace your NF4V with the D-Link providing it's UFB compatible (you'd need to know if your ISP and/or D-Link require VLAN tagging) but will lose your phone service unless your NF4V supports sitting behind an other router with DHCP enabled on the WAN. You will be totally on your own with such a setup as your ISP isn't going to provide support.

 

 

Ahh that sucks. I bought this modem/router last year just because it was UFB compatible. And then slingshot shocked me by saying that the phone line needs to be connected from the Netcomm. This DLINK does not have the phone jacks unfortunately, but it did say it was UFB ready. So there is a ray of hope there. The NF4V does not have great wifi signal and I really need to figure out what I can do for this to work

 

 

 

 

There is nothing to stop you using that as your router, but you will be on your own. Your phone may work if the NF4V is plugged in behind, or it may not.

 

My point was more that you're confused about bridge mode because there simply is no such concept in the UFB world.


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  Reply # 1476562 22-Jan-2016 09:14
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Does Slinghot or Orcon allow you to have the VOIP 'Landline' number configured in an ATA rather than via the NF4V.

 

In other words if you just had you D-Link hooked up to the Chorus ONT and had a separate ATA device (~$80) hooked up to the D-Link and your phone - maybe that would be a less mucky setup.

 

I found this about the Slingshot iTalk service - is that what they use for the 'landline' bit?

 

https://help.slingshot.co.nz/ITALK/44643763/What-is-the-Linksys-ATA.htm

 

 





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  Reply # 1476611 22-Jan-2016 10:07
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sbiddle:

 

Krishant007:

 

sbiddle:

 

The NF4V can't do what you want it to do in bridge mode, because it's neither designed for this nor needed. In the DSL world this is a supported scenario, with UFB it's not supported because it's a totally illogical setup.

 

If you want your phone to continue on your NF4V this needs to stay as your primary router.

 

If you want to use the D-Link for WiFI disable DHCP on your D-Link, give it a static IP on the same subnet range as your NF4V gives out so you can log in, and plug a cable from the LAN port on the NF4V to the LAN on the D-Link.

 

You could replace your NF4V with the D-Link providing it's UFB compatible (you'd need to know if your ISP and/or D-Link require VLAN tagging) but will lose your phone service unless your NF4V supports sitting behind an other router with DHCP enabled on the WAN. You will be totally on your own with such a setup as your ISP isn't going to provide support.

 

 

Ahh that sucks. I bought this modem/router last year just because it was UFB compatible. And then slingshot shocked me by saying that the phone line needs to be connected from the Netcomm. This DLINK does not have the phone jacks unfortunately, but it did say it was UFB ready. So there is a ray of hope there. The NF4V does not have great wifi signal and I really need to figure out what I can do for this to work

 

 

 

 

There is nothing to stop you using that as your router, but you will be on your own. Your phone may work if the NF4V is plugged in behind, or it may not.

 

My point was more that you're confused about bridge mode because there simply is no such concept in the UFB world.

 

 

 

 

Ahh I see what you are saying. I can try to use the phone with the NF4V plugged behind the DLink. Will give that a shot tonight. I find the interface of the DLink much better than the Netcomm - would rather go with that method i guess and use the DLink as the UFB router.




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  Reply # 1477218 23-Jan-2016 11:23
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Just wondering if anyone has been able to successfully set up a 3rd party UFB modem to their Slingshot UFB? I am trying to set this up on my DLink. I went ahead and changed the mode to UFB mode, selected a port for WAN. Entered my user name/password. Went to IPV6 settings for internet connection, did that as well. But the modem still doesnt connect to the UFB network. Any settings i am missing?




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  Reply # 1479720 27-Jan-2016 11:02
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Sorted. I have spent a good 6 hours on the phone with SLingshot + Dlink. Had to get the latest firmware on my DLink. Got the settings from my provider (VLAN tagging!), but managed to get the DLINK talking to the UFB. OMG the speeds are gorgeous. Using the netcomm, the speed i was getting on my desktop (over wifi) was about 5Mb/s. But now its about 50Mb/s. On my laptop (with 802.11ac), it is 100Mb/s. 

 

Only sacrifice I made was I have to by pass the Netcomm, foregoing my phone line. I will try using the Netcomm as an ATA and see if that works. Alternatively, I might put in a request here to see if anyone has got a spare ATA.

 

 

 

Thanks for those that gave some good advice. Much appreciated.


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