Scenic routing to Vocus

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#236097 17-May-2018 18:36

It seems 2d-Vocus traffic might be going via Christchurch (I'm guessing based on the pings), at least from my line in Auckland:

traceroute to orcon.net.nz (60.234.0.19), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 R7000 (192.168.1.1) 0.297 ms 0.646 ms 0.634 ms
2 * * *
3 default-rdns.vocus.co.nz (101.98.5.137) 18.898 ms 19.163 ms 19.257 ms
4 default-rdns.vocus.co.nz (101.98.5.136) 19.243 ms 19.149 ms 19.142 ms
5 10.101.5.127 (10.101.5.127) 31.542 ms 31.528 ms 31.467 ms
6 10.101.5.126 (10.101.5.126) 31.427 ms 30.804 ms 30.857 ms
7 default-rdns.vocus.co.nz (60.234.0.19) 30.971 ms 31.020 ms 30.781 ms

Seems odd for traffic that in the past has stayed within Auckland is taking a bit of a scenic route.

Has any one else noticed this behaviour?

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#2018296 18-May-2018 12:05

We have a direct bilateral peering with Vocus in Christchurch. Prefixes on direct bilateral peerings have a higher local preference than those learned from peers on Public Internet Exchange points. We are also learning prefixes from Auckland but they are from Internet Exchange points so they are less preferred compared to the direct peering in Christchurch.

This is with one of engineering teams for investigation/comment. I'll update once I receive recommendations/feedback etc.

Nick.

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#2018336 18-May-2018 14:00

I am seeing the same on 2D UFB

Tracing route to orcon.net.nz [60.234.0.19] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 172.50.3.1
2 * * *
3 19 ms 20 ms 20 ms default-rdns.vocus.co.nz [101.98.5.137]
4 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms default-rdns.vocus.co.nz [101.98.5.136]
5 32 ms 34 ms 34 ms 10.101.5.127
6 33 ms 34 ms 34 ms 10.101.5.126
7 34 ms 31 ms 34 ms default-rdns.vocus.co.nz [60.234.0.19]

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#2018344 18-May-2018 14:16

Hi @NickMack

Happy to setup some Bilats else where to resolve.

Hit me up!

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#2018360 18-May-2018 14:31

Sounddude:

Hi NickMack

Happy to setup some Bilats else where to resolve.

Hit me up!

All this working together between providers, wow.

What has the world come to!

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#2018363 18-May-2018 14:35

hio77:

All this working together between providers, wow.

What has the world come to!

Colour me impressed. :)

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#2018381 18-May-2018 14:45

hio77:

All this working together between providers, wow.

What has the world come to!

See! thats how the real telcos work :P

rather than putting your fingers in your ears when the word "peering" is mentioned.

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#2018382 18-May-2018 14:46

Lorenceo:

hio77:

All this working together between providers, wow.

What has the world come to!

Colour me impressed. :)

ISP's that don't demand ridiculous money to peer are awesome.

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#2018383 18-May-2018 14:47

Update - Change in QA at the moment, scheduled to be applied early next week.

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#2018392 18-May-2018 14:54

Thanks - We're sorting out change/QA at the mo, and will be in contact early next week. :-)

Sounddude:

Hi @NickMack

Happy to setup some Bilats else where to resolve.

Hit me up!

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#2020188 22-May-2018 09:19

Update - QA approved with local preferences changed, we have a request into Vocus NOC to build a new Bi-lat, I will update once this is done.

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#2020268 22-May-2018 11:45

Jesus.

NZNOG has become Geekzone, and Geekzone has become NZNOG.

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#2020278 22-May-2018 12:03

And the Muppets are here ;-)

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#2020504 22-May-2018 17:12

Big improvement compared to before. Still doesn't appear to be staying within Auckland just yet:

traceroute to orcon.net.nz (60.234.0.19), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 R7000 (192.168.1.1) 0.316 ms 0.298 ms 0.856 ms
2 * * *
3 34.34.69.111.static.snap.net.nz (111.69.34.34) 2.428 ms 2.392 ms 2.387 ms
4 35.34.69.111.static.snap.net.nz (111.69.34.35) 16.881 ms 17.281 ms 17.206 ms
5 10.101.5.127 (10.101.5.127) 17.242 ms 17.220 ms 17.194 ms
6 10.101.5.126 (10.101.5.126) 17.054 ms 16.524 ms 16.600 ms
7 default-rdns.vocus.co.nz (60.234.0.19) 16.728 ms 16.764 ms 16.744 ms

traceroute to games.orcon.net.nz (219.88.241.85), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 R7000 (192.168.1.1) 0.368 ms 0.671 ms 0.661 ms
2 * * *
3 34.34.69.111.static.snap.net.nz (111.69.34.34) 10.800 ms 10.754 ms 10.741 ms
4 35.34.69.111.static.snap.net.nz (111.69.34.35) 17.169 ms 17.122 ms 17.109 ms
5 default-rdns.vocus.co.nz (219.88.241.65) 17.209 ms 17.208 ms 17.185 ms
6 games.orcon.net.nz (219.88.241.85) 16.943 ms 16.458 ms 16.515 ms