Static IP with Stuff - broken reverse DNS, they won't set it up.

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#281025 26-Jan-2021 09:49

Just a grizzle. I've had stuff fibre for a year, with a static IP. I thought I'd throw caution to the wind and try running a mail server at home again -- it was so much fun* in the 2000s.

To improve mail deliverability I'd need reverse DNS for my IP - currently it's default-rdns.vocus.co.nz which of course doesn't resolve to anything at all.

The helpdesk tells me that reverse DNS is a business feature.

Is this common across Vocus consumer connections? Broken reverse DNS and static IPs that you can't get a PTR set on?

[*] well, not as painful as it is these days, and I'm still bitter about Google's "free gmail for your domain" bait-and-switch

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#2642121 26-Jan-2021 10:12

Stuff Fibre is really "at the bottom of the barrel" if you wanted more advanced features.

If you really want to host a mail server, look into moving to Voyager instead otherwise you're seriously better to use a proper email provider like Office 365, Google Workspace or Fastmail. You'll be battling email delivery issues otherwise as you're coming from a residential IP and the bigger providers won't trust you.

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#2642131 26-Jan-2021 10:27

Voyager is definitely the way to go. I've even got a subnet on my residential connection, although it's not fully deployed yet as I need a new router. The only complaint is their use of PPPoE, which doesn't play nicely with pfSense (ERL died).

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#2642136 26-Jan-2021 10:41

michaelmurfy:

Stuff Fibre is really "at the bottom of the barrel" if you wanted more advanced features.

If you really want to host a mail server, look into moving to Voyager instead otherwise you're seriously better to use a proper email provider like Office 365, Google Workspace or Fastmail. You'll be battling email delivery issues otherwise as you're coming from a residential IP and the bigger providers won't trust you.

I know I'm on a hiding to nowhere trying to run a mail server at home. I'm just shocked to discover that PTR records are a business feature.

Voyager are great. I was going to complain that they charged over the odds for gigabit but am pleasantly surprised to see that's no longer the case. Wonder how well my router handles PPPoE...

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#2642140 26-Jan-2021 10:48

To be honest most routers support PPPoE fine. The exception to this case is those "Gaming" routers where all their features is done in software and as a result they can't route Gigabit. What router have you got?

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#2642187 26-Jan-2021 10:57

michaelmurfy:

To be honest most routers support PPPoE fine. The exception to this case is those "Gaming" routers where all their features is done in software and as a result they can't route Gigabit. What router have you got?

Way more leet than a "gaming router" - a NanoPi R2s. It already can't quite pass gigabit -- when the R4s gets proper OpenWRT I plan to upgrade to it.

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#2642290 26-Jan-2021 12:36

You're the first person I know to actually use one of those as their router. The problem is as you've likely experienced everything is done in software so you don't get full hardware offloading.

If you want a cheap, small router with a tonne of features and also hardware offloading then look into the Edgerouter X. It can route Gigabit over PPPoE totally fine and will support any feature you need.

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#2642393 26-Jan-2021 14:50

deadlyllama:

michaelmurfy:

Stuff Fibre is really "at the bottom of the barrel" if you wanted more advanced features.

If you really want to host a mail server, look into moving to Voyager instead otherwise you're seriously better to use a proper email provider like Office 365, Google Workspace or Fastmail. You'll be battling email delivery issues otherwise as you're coming from a residential IP and the bigger providers won't trust you.

I know I'm on a hiding to nowhere trying to run a mail server at home. I'm just shocked to discover that PTR records are a business feature.

Voyager are great. I was going to complain that they charged over the odds for gigabit but am pleasantly surprised to see that's no longer the case. Wonder how well my router handles PPPoE...

I don't think it's THAT uncommon, I have been running Exchange at home for my email for about 7 years. I use Spark (and BigPipe before that). I do it because I want to maintain privacy, and it's a good learning experience.

About your reverse DNS and PTR issues, just set up a MX forwarder (terminology???) to a company like smtp2go. It fixes the trust issues raised by @michaelmurfy (been there, done that, not worth the hassle).

(BTW I am not an expert at this, just someone who has been through a similar challenge, so my terminology may be slightly wrong!)

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#2642420 26-Jan-2021 15:34

michaelmurfy:

You're the first person I know to actually use one of those as their router. The problem is as you've likely experienced everything is done in software so you don't get full hardware offloading.

If you want a cheap, small router with a tonne of features and also hardware offloading then look into the Edgerouter X. It can route Gigabit over PPPoE totally fine and will support any feature you need.

My first router was a 486 running slackware so I'm kind of used to doing it that way. I find anything else eventually just a bit limiting. And I don't need to pass gigabit, I'm never going to notice beyond 200Mbps anyway.