Youtube fails, or just me?

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#70822 31-Oct-2010 19:24

Hi all,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CC_9aFuEkA

I could load this one fast as lightning, but the other ones I couldn't load, is it just me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_3Utmj4RPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9_CdNPuJg

These two I can't load at all, traffic's stuck at 0kbps.. not even moving.

Normal?

Thanks!

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#398188 31-Oct-2010 19:46

I'm getting the same on Vodafone, some videos load as fast as anything but others just "stall" for about 2mins then finally load.

Only just started happening about 2 days ago, before then it was as good as gold.

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#398195 31-Oct-2010 20:10

same problem on vodafone for last couple of days. once the video loads then no problems but sometimes getting some videos to load is a major.

Do whatever you want to do man.

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#398196 31-Oct-2010 20:10

Happening To me today, not had before... Vodafone too.

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#398197 31-Oct-2010 20:12

hmm now they all load crazy fast now, which I assume is in the cache..

You'd imagine they'd actively seek out all those videos over 3m views into cache or something :P

wonder if all isps in nz share the same youtube cache...

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#398228 31-Oct-2010 21:11

They all load fine for me, on Telecom

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#399401 2-Nov-2010 23:45

All 3 load up nice for me too , on Orcon but that isn't always the case most take twice to three times as long as the video's play time because of constant buffering

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#399403 2-Nov-2010 23:49

all load quickly on telecom pro.

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#399412 3-Nov-2010 00:13

Yeah it's working well with me now.

Maybe just a random NZ issue?

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#399415 3-Nov-2010 00:32

All working fine from my Snap connection, quick loading time, no buffering in playing and thats all 3 streaming at the same time

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#399428 3-Nov-2010 02:19

alliao: hmm now they all load crazy fast now, which I assume is in the cache..

You'd imagine they'd actively seek out all those videos over 3m views into cache or something :P

wonder if all isps in nz share the same youtube cache...

Telecom, Telstraclear, Snap and I think Vodafone host customer only google/youtube caches in their networks

Orcon host google/youtube caches that are connected to APE/WIX and some ISP's that peer there are able to access content from these caches eg: Slingshot, Maxnet (I think) and possibly others.

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#399434 3-Nov-2010 03:01

Ragnor:
alliao: hmm now they all load crazy fast now, which I assume is in the cache..

You'd imagine they'd actively seek out all those videos over 3m views into cache or something :P

wonder if all isps in nz share the same youtube cache...

Telecom, Telstraclear, Snap and I think Vodafone host customer only google/youtube caches in their networks

Orcon host google/youtube caches that are connected to APE/WIX and some ISP's that peer there are able to access content from these caches eg: Slingshot, Maxnet (I think) and possibly others.

Correct,

I know Telstraclear's Cache is Dependant on the number of people viewing it ... But from what i know of the system is if someone watches it then it will cache.. But for how long i don't know,

I'm sure its a nice complex code that Only Google knows.

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#399519 3-Nov-2010 10:25

If it were google doing the caching then I'm pretty sure it's a bit easier for them with direct information on which clip is spreading like wildfire and generating hits and just push whatever clips getting hits to the cache. Not too unlike the recent SMS traffic function.

http://www.pnas.org/content/107/44/18803

just hope something similar's in place..having to wait for 360p youtube is just so....backward.

But then maybe I have excessively high expectations = =meh.

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#399523 3-Nov-2010 10:42

alliao: If it were google doing the caching then I'm pretty sure it's a bit easier for them with direct information on which clip is spreading like wildfire and generating hits and just push whatever clips getting hits to the cache. Not too unlike the recent SMS traffic function.

It's Google doing the caching. A Google/YouTube cache is a Google box hosted by the ISP, with guaranteed bandwidth. The administration, software maintenance and care is all Google's own, the ISP have no way to interfere with that.

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#399524 3-Nov-2010 10:46

Thanks freitasm, so the more people hitting up youtube videos, the more isps pay for the traffic? or does google pay the isp for the traffic generated by those box?

there must be a constraint somewhere that's limiting it's performance...seeing how southerncross cables aren't near it's capacity even during peak hours(well at least that's how they market it in their webpage), I can't imagine the reason being technical.

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#399526 3-Nov-2010 10:54

Ragnor: Orcon host google/youtube caches that are connected to APE/WIX and some ISP's that peer there are able to access content from these caches eg: Slingshot, Maxnet (I think) and possibly others.

I don't doubt you, but do you have any reference for this? I thought most ISPs that had the caches used them fairly exclusively for their customers.

It'd be great if this was actually the case though, but my testing just now shows we a different way to get to Google. But maybe they only advertise to certain peers and not to the route servers.

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