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# 20396 25-Mar-2008 10:39
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Optus D1 12483 H 22500, SID 1038 has changed from "Reserved 7" to "TVNZ 7" and is now showing the promo loop.

I can also confirm that TVNZ 7 and Te Reo are now present in the MHEG-5 EPG on DTH.

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  # 118487 25-Mar-2008 10:43

Loop also live on DTT, no longer mirroring TVNZ6

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  # 118488 25-Mar-2008 10:50
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With risk to this going OT, can someone tell me about how the Freeview transmission happens off D1?

Specifically, if Sky and TVNZ/MediaWorks/Kordia came to an agreement for Sky to re-transmit freeview, can the exisitng Sky decoders simply pick up the Freeview MUXs or do Sky have to re-transmit it on thier own?

 
 
 
 




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  # 118495 25-Mar-2008 11:32
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adamj: With risk to this going OT, can someone tell me about how the Freeview transmission happens off D1?

Specifically, if Sky and TVNZ/MediaWorks/Kordia came to an agreement for Sky to re-transmit freeview, can the exisitng Sky decoders simply
pick up the Freeview MUXs or do Sky have to re-transmit it on thier own?


Sky currently show the freeview versions of Stratos, Maori TV, Paliamant and Cue. They will also be showing the freeview transmission of Te Reo when that launches.

So yes Sky decoders can simply tune to the freeview versions of the channels.




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  # 118500 25-Mar-2008 11:40
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To repeat what has been said many times. Sky re-transmit 1-4 due to the agreements they have with TVNZ/Canwest. Those re-transmissions are a much lower bitrate (3MB/s) than the Freeview ones (~7.5-8MB/s), so sky can squeeze more into their transponder. The Sky STB's "Could" be setup to pick up the Freeview Muxes, however Sky would need to push down the config to the STB's as customers are unable to reconfigure the boxes themselves. If they did that I suspect they would be visited by Laywers from TVNZ/Canwest. Sky do however carry the "freeview" muxes of Cue/Stratos/Parliment TV on their STB's, probably due to agreements that Sky have made with said providers to allow them to configure the Sky STB's to recieve it.

The issue is not that the Sky STB's are able to recieve the Freeview signals (as they are not encrypted) or not, it's the fact that the only person who controlls the Sky STB's are Sky, the "end user" is not able to purchase a box that can legally decrypt sky signals with the Sky card put in the front, the only way to do it is for a sky subscriber to be issued with STB & Smartcard. With the customer not owning the STB (it's sky owned equipment) the customer is locked in to whatever sky will provide for you.





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  # 118507 25-Mar-2008 12:16
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They just need the software used on the uk sky boxes that have an option for other services.

BTW, those UK boxes will not work here at all since it seems if they cant find their home transponder they wont let you use the other services menu.


After adding that menu, sky would just have to let people add it themselves or else pre populate the fields with the currently used transponder so that it will get it as soon as they tune to one of the freeview ones.

I wish sky would have the balls to front up and push the channels out and see if tvnz/tvworks are game to challange in court since they have established they had no problem with UHF sky shipping with their analog transmissions preset into it I would say that there is already an established example of it being acceptable.




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  # 118514 25-Mar-2008 12:27
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But the major difference between the UK and NZ is in the UK you OWN the Sky STB, whereas in NZ it'e CPE (Customer Premsis Equipment, IE owned by Sky).  That is why in the UK they are able to say "hey you can do this small number of things on your own box".  And why products like Copy+ to allow customers to upgrade their UK Sky+ Harddisk to a new larger disk is possible.

On the arguement on Sky using the Freeview muxes to counter that arguement Prime over UHF is not encrypted and you don't require a Sky UHF STB to receive it, so why doesn't sky have the same strategy over the Satellite :P





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TVNZ7 is Live - full programming active

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