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# 20760 5-Apr-2008 07:59
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http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/hauppauge-hd-pvr-shows-itself-pre-order-said-to-be-coming-soon/

Is this going to be the thing to use for FreeViewHD PVR?

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  # 121236 5-Apr-2008 08:07
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It's of no real use really.

This (along with their already announced component input card) are simply designed to work in conjunction with a STB to capture video in H.264 they don't actually contain a tuner of any sort. Because inputs are also component you also won't be able to capture HD content in this part of the world since HD material will have the ICT flag enabled for component output and requires HDMI + HDCP.



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  # 121239 5-Apr-2008 08:19
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sbiddle: It's of no real use really.

This (along with their already announced component input card) are simply designed to work in conjunction with a STB to capture video in H.264 they don't actually contain a tuner of any sort. Because inputs are also component you also won't be able to capture HD content in this part of the world since HD material will have the ICT flag enabled for component output and requires HDMI + HDCP.


Ahh - yes i see now.. i was getting to that conclusion :)

 
 
 
 


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  # 121250 5-Apr-2008 09:11
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greminn: http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/hauppauge-hd-pvr-shows-itself-pre-order-said-to-be-coming-soon/

Is this going to be the thing to use for FreeViewHD PVR?
As sbiddle said - no, its not of much use in NZ. Its primarily aimed at the north american market where they currently have no way to record premium channels from their digital cable/satellite set top boxes. Its going to sell like hot cakes in the US.

That said, I've had one on my desk here in Wellington for the last six weeks or so. It does a pretty damn fine job of capturing highdef video.

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  # 121253 5-Apr-2008 09:17
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sbiddle:
"along with their already announced component input card"
Some early reports of this device incorrectly indicated it was a card. They are not developing a component capture card. This is it, an external USB2 capture device.

Because inputs are also component you also won't be able to capture HD content in this part of the world since HD material will have the ICT flag enabled for component output and requires HDMI + HDCP.
I'm not suggest anyone go the HD-PVR route here in NZ, but I wonder if the non-freeview branded receivers (like http://www.satmax.co.nz/Products/DTT%201026.htm) will give full resolution component output. I'm sure many of these chinese STBs wont honour the ICT flag.

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  # 121273 5-Apr-2008 11:41
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I'm not suggest anyone go the HD-PVR route here in NZ, but I wonder if the non-freeview branded receivers (like http://www.satmax.co.nz/Products/DTT%201026.htm) will give full resolution component output. I'm sure many of these chinese STBs wont honour the ICT flag.


Interesting point but at $499 it's rather expensive to find out.  I wouls also be interested to know if any of these new non Freeview STB have the ability to "series link" like the MySky can do rather than just a 7 day program guide that makes you reschedule the program every week and if you  don't remember  you just record the last station that you were on..




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  # 121280 5-Apr-2008 12:08
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I'm not suggest anyone go the HD-PVR route here in NZ, but I wonder if the non-freeview branded receivers (like http://www.satmax.co.nz/Products/DTT%201026.htm) will give full resolution component output. I'm sure many of these chinese STBs wont honour the ICT flag.


Interesting point but at $499 it's rather expensive to find out.  I wouls also be interested to know if any of these new non Freeview STB have the ability to "series link" like the MySky can do rather than just a 7 day program guide that makes you reschedule the program every week and if you  don't remember  you just record the last station that you were on..
It doesnt have to be expensive to find out. I'm sure you could email them to ask.

This particular box is a $100 more than the DSE, and seems to have dual HDMI outputs + component output as extras over the DSE boxes. I'm sure there will be non-freeview branded boxes soon sporting component etc, for less than the DSE box.

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  # 121318 5-Apr-2008 15:28
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The DSE box has component output (Y/Pb/Pr).

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  # 121322 5-Apr-2008 15:46
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linw: The DSE box has component output (Y/Pb/Pr).

The component is only SD, so any HD content will be downscaled to 576i




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  # 121669 7-Apr-2008 01:32
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There was that thread on the other forums that the guy installed some other firmware which enabled them.

I wonder if they will have to add it under pressure from customers when the other boxes hit the market that have component out functioning?




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  # 121675 7-Apr-2008 05:49
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The HD-PVR would prob make a good analogue capture device? i.e. use component in instead of s-video when recording from a Sky STB.




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  # 122289 9-Apr-2008 11:49

Theres not much difference between component + Svideo on most tvs etc as far as sky goes. Its not the output type that is the major quality controller in the majority of the sky signal...

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  # 128978 6-May-2008 22:34
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im new to this freeview hd stuff too. it doesnt make much sense from where im sitting.

anyhow i was having a browse for dvb-t hd pvrs and found this one http://www.tvix.co.kr/eng/products/PVRM51105130SH.aspx

is this in essence the same as the hauppage (as in it doesn't have the tuner) or does it look like it would do the job? it seems to be aimed at the ozzy market but as far as i can tell it should work here. any truth?


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  # 128993 6-May-2008 23:34
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gkjb:

anyhow i was having a browse for dvb-t hd pvrs and found this one http://www.tvix.co.kr/eng/products/PVRM51105130SH.aspx



It might work, but I couldn't be certain it could play the AAC-LATM audio though.  That seems to be the stumbling block. For example, a PopcornHour can play the video, but not the audio.

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  # 130111 11-May-2008 22:56
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richms: There was that thread on the other forums that the guy installed some other firmware which enabled them.

I wonder if they will have to add it under pressure from customers when the other boxes hit the market that have component out functioning?


Their receivers are Freeview approved and (part of) approval requires that the component out is restricted to SD.

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