Turning off TV also turns off Panasonic HWT260

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scuwp

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#242164 14-Oct-2018 09:28

Hi all.

The inability of my aging TiVo to handle the daylight savings change was the last straw. Tried the Dish T2200 but found that extremely buggy and frustrating, so have now picked up the Panasonic HWT260. No comparison to TiVo but it's not bad.

One problem I can't seem to fix is that turning off the TV (by any means) also turns off the HWT260. This cancels any current recordings and I assume (please correct me if I am wrong) that it will not "wake up" from standby automatically to record anything programmed either. So to record teh unit must be on at all times (aka TiVo)?

I can only assume that the TV is sending a signal (or dropping a signal) through the HDMI cable, and the PVR is accepting this as a prompt to shut down.

This is going to be incredibly frustrating, for example if something is playing that we for whatever reason can't hang around to watch the end of, we simply cant just turn off the TV and have the PVR continue recording it.

Any ideas? I have gone through the power settings on the PVR and made sure none of the auto power off settings are enabled, also tried with the Anytime TV on and off. Also tried a different HDMI outlet on the TV without ARC and still the same.

Any suggestions?

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sparkz25

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#2107562 14-Oct-2018 09:30

HDMI cec might be turned on?

Goosey

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#2107566 14-Oct-2018 09:54

On my sony tv theres a menu for "control for hdmi", and that essentially controls the power up and down of attached HDMI devices.

robjg63

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#2107569 14-Oct-2018 09:57

On Panasonic, they call HDMI CDC Vieira link.
Sounds like you have it enabled.
This feature let's you use your TV (remote) to control other devices.
E.g. my old Panasonic plasma switches on the home theatre when I turn the TV on (and off when I turn the TV off).
You can also use the Vieira link to switch to a DVD/blue ray/ media box and have your TV remote control those devices.

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B1GGLZ

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#2107588 14-Oct-2018 10:51

I think you'll find that the Panasonic will still record OK when in standby mode.

All the recorders I've ever had (JVC, Sony, Panasonic) recorded OK from Standby mode. They're supposed to.

P.S.

According to my Panasonic BWT 720 manual - Recording will continue even if switched to standby mode while recording. A red clock symbol will show in standby mode if recordings are programmed.

Behodar

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#2107649 14-Oct-2018 12:38

As mentioned, this'll almost certainly be CEC. It's one of those things that sounds like a good idea but ends up having poor execution, such as my Sony TV's remote having Play, Stop, Next Track, and Previous Track buttons, but no Pause. Or when you finish watching a movie so you turn the TV off, only for the Blu-ray player to turn off too. So you need to turn it back on and wait for it to boot up so that you can eject the disc...

scuwp

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#2107659 14-Oct-2018 13:37

Solved! Thanks all.

Found an obscure setting in the Samsung TV about Anynet CEC or something like that. Had no idea what that was but after the posts above changing it to "off" fixed the problem.

I would love for the PVR to continue to record while on standby but so far doesn't seem to me like it does. I have turned off all auto power down settings.

What I have tried (quick start is enabled):

I set a recording going from the EPG waiting a couple of minutes then put the PVR onto standby. The front display icon for recording stopped showing and the device powered off. I waiting a couple of minutes and turned it back on again, no indications it has continued recording and the library file indeed showed it had stopped the moment I put it on standby.

Other test was to set recording on a show that was going to start shortly and then put the PVR into standby and waited to see if it would fire up at the scheduled time...nope.

Disappointing also that the time lapse recording only seems to work on the channel you are watching, and only ever goes back as far as the last time a channel was changed, Unlike the TiVo which kept recording on both tuners regardless. The TiVo had big shoes for other devices to fill.

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clive100

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#2107662 14-Oct-2018 14:11

The Panasonic will start and execute all timer & keyword recordings whether left on or in standby mode. I have the HWT260 & the 760 Bluray version & no issues what so ever regarding recordings. Once you learn the Panasonic system you will find it superior in many ways to the TiVo. I can talk from experience after migrating from TiVo to the earlier Panasonics & more recently to the latest Panasonic offerings.

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scuwp

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#2107672 14-Oct-2018 15:07

clive100:
The Panasonic will start and execute all timer & keyword recordings whether left on or in standby mode. I have the HWT260 & the 760 Bluray version & no issues what so ever regarding recordings. Once you learn the Panasonic system you will find it superior in many ways to the TiVo. I can talk from experience after migrating from TiVo to the earlier Panasonics & more recently to the latest Panasonic offerings.

That’s what a read and was hoping for. There is obviously a setting I am overlooking. Thanks for the confirmation will keep exploring.

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Mavarick

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#2131157 21-Nov-2018 15:22

My Vu Solo2 and Samsung TV both turn off together using HDMI cec , sat box still records alright

snnet

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#2132115 22-Nov-2018 18:38

Mavarick:

My Vu Solo2 and Samsung TV both turn off together using HDMI cec , sat box still records alright

Sat box may ignore CEC or have smarts to know not to turn off if recording is happening or scheduled. In most set ups CEC seems to be more hassle than it's worth