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Topic # 30584 13-Feb-2009 20:18
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According to the TV3 website and the listener, Rove is not in HD any more.

Can anyone tell me why this is? It was in HD last year...

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  Reply # 195782 14-Feb-2009 00:48
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I'd suggest cost.




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  Reply # 195791 14-Feb-2009 09:02
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Must be Friday the 13th.  TV Guide shows it in HD for Friday Feb 20




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  Reply # 196174 16-Feb-2009 22:56
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I suspect Rove won't be in HD for much longer anyhow, the much vaunted Freeview over there will see TenHD being replaced with OneHD, showing sport etc.


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  Reply # 196190 17-Feb-2009 02:04
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warning this is only coming from the eye of one beholder and definitely does not hold true for every clip; but:

for the most part, (i have a 50" full hd screen with 85% signal strength on built-in tuner) when i put my eye 30cm from the tv, there is no difference between a show rated as "HD" and a good show that is upscaled. no/very little difference. why? i believe it is the bit rate at which so called "HD" shows are streamed, there are the 2 million pixels but they're quite scrambled compared with watching say dark knight bluray or planet earth bluray. so that makes them HD shows having a very similar picture quality as a quality SD show that is upscaled (i'm not talking about BK commercials, but shows like house, heroes etc).

and any difference becomes much less anyway when you sit further back.

again, that's according to me! however HD shows do come with lots more sound, but as i do not have a 5.1 setup (using the tv's awesome speakers) that makes no difference to us ...

ps: before you rip me to shreds try watching house and boston legal, and heroes and prison break and tell me what you think.

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  Reply # 196192 17-Feb-2009 06:41
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Rove is the one exception to the "HD looks just like SD" statement.

Rove was IMHO one of the best examples of HD programming. Visually it looked fantastic in HD and the difference between the HD and SD was very noticeable to me.

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  Reply # 196200 17-Feb-2009 08:24
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joker97: 

ps: before you rip me to shreds try watching house and boston legal, and heroes and prison break and tell me what you think.

Well House is not HD and suspect Heroes  isn't as well.. Boston Legal and Prison Break are..

On another note.  The Simpsons  went HD in the US last nite..





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  Reply # 196205 17-Feb-2009 08:41
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old3eyes: The Simpsons  went HD in the US last nite..


An animated cartoon in HD is just plain whierd.. It's not like they need to upgrade the cameras! :-)

I am assuming The Simpsons is now 16:9 as well which is the norm for HD material in the USA vs 4:3 for SD?



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  Reply # 196227 17-Feb-2009 10:13
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sbiddle: Rove is the one exception to the "HD looks just like SD" statement.

Rove was IMHO one of the best examples of HD programming. Visually it looked fantastic in HD and the difference between the HD and SD was very noticeable to me.



IMHO that type of talky show really doesn't benefit too much from HD and from what I could tell, it wasn't 5.1 so even the benefits of surround sound audio were not present

On the other hand while some HD shows are not that flash PQ wise, Miami Vice looks fantastic in HD IMHO. No doubt you are watching a HD broadcast.




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  Reply # 196254 17-Feb-2009 12:27
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old3eyes: Must be Friday the 13th.  TV Guide shows it in HD for Friday Feb 20


FreeviewHD EPG is not showing HD symbol for Rove on 20 Feb.




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  Reply # 196257 17-Feb-2009 12:37
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sbiddle:
old3eyes: The Simpsons  went HD in the US last nite..


An animated cartoon in HD is just plain whierd.. It's not like they need to upgrade the cameras! :-)

I am assuming The Simpsons is now 16:9 as well which is the norm for HD material in the USA vs 4:3 for SD?


I'll let you know after I watch it tonite..





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  Reply # 196302 17-Feb-2009 15:28
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With my 19" 1440x900, I could clearly tell the difference between Little Miss Sunshine on HD on TV3 and other non HD movies.

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  Reply # 196393 17-Feb-2009 21:36
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ok so house upscaled is definitely inferior to boston legal is definitely inferior to planet earth/dark knight bluray.

but i thought home and away upscaled was pretty sharp from about 1m away, pretty similar to boston legal in hd.

just my thoughts. see what rove's like ...

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  Reply # 196446 18-Feb-2009 08:37
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sbiddle:
old3eyes: The Simpsons  went HD in the US last nite..


An animated cartoon in HD is just plain whierd.. It's not like they need to upgrade the cameras! :-)

I am assuming The Simpsons is now 16:9 as well which is the norm for HD material in the USA vs 4:3 for SD?


 

Looked fine in 16:9 and the PQ was better than what we see at present on CH3.  The AC3 sound was great though the sound mix was not quite rite.  The music was allot lower than the effects or speech a point made by several US viewers.  New intro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZGz1Ajg7QU  

 

The most interesting thing was this came  from  a Fox channel 41  but no voice overs or squashed end credits like we get here.  As this comes from Fox don't expect to see it in HD here when ever CH3 gets round to showing it if the current House series is anything to go by..





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  Reply # 196587 18-Feb-2009 19:36
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sbiddle:
old3eyes: The Simpsons  went HD in the US last nite..


An animated cartoon in HD is just plain whierd.. It's not like they need to upgrade the cameras! :-)

I am assuming The Simpsons is now 16:9 as well which is the norm for HD material in the USA vs 4:3 for SD?


 

Looked fine in 16:9 and the PQ was better than what we see at present on CH3.  The AC3 sound was great though the sound mix was not quite rite.  The music was allot lower than the effects or speech a point made by several US viewers.  New intro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZGz1Ajg7QU  

 

The most interesting thing was this came  from  a Fox channel 41  but no voice overs or squashed end credits like we get here.  As this comes from Fox don't expect to see it in HD here when ever CH3 gets round to showing it if the current House series is anything to go by..



A couple of points

I am guessing you saw a capture of the show. Typically this would have been recompressed to H.264 so while a good representation of the original broadcast, there must be some tradeoffs.

As for the show being on Fox and therefore potentially not likely to be here in HD (as judged by House) I did get a note from Mediaworks that it's their policy to acquire HD versions of any show they plan to broadcast in primetime. Not sure The Simpsons is in primetime since it usually runs before 8pm?

Also it's not that it's Fox or not that determines whether a show is purchased or available in HD - it's the actual distributor which is not the same for all shows on Fox. I was also told that the reason the current season of House is not in HD is it was probably purchased (or an intent to purchase was made) before the HD policy had been finalised. Also Bones is on Fox and is in HD here.




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  Reply # 196640 19-Feb-2009 08:36
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As for the show being on Fox and therefore potentially not likely to be here in HD (as judged by House) I did get a note from Mediaworks that it's their policy to acquire HD versions of any show they plan to broadcast in primetime. Not sure The Simpsons is in primetime since it usually runs before 8pm?

 

New Eps of The Simpsons are shown here at 8.PM Sunday nite..





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