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# 38067 23-Jul-2009 18:25
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Finally one of the major electronics brands has a PVR ready for the New Zealand market. In fact Panasonic will be marketing two different PVRs.

The top-line model DMP-BW850 has twin Freeview HD tuners a 500 GB disk and a built-in Bluray player/writer. The Panasonic NZ website has nothing on the recorder yet, but a recorder with the same model number, and what looks like a similar specification, has been available in australia for some time. Of course it's possible that customisation for NZ Freeview HD will have forced some modification of the recorder spec and functionality.
Panasonic Australia: Blu-ray disc recorder with 500GB HDD and Twin HD Tuner

Harvey Norman, and no doubt other retailers are starting to advertise the DMP-BW850 and take orders for August delivery - Harvey Norman list price NZ$1,999.

The second Panasonic model is the DMR-XW350 with twin Freeview HD tuners a 250 GB disk and a built-in (upscaling) DVD player/writer.

Panasonic Australia: DMR-XW350

Again Harvey Normanare starting to advertise the DMR-XW350 and take orders for August delivery - Harvey Norman list price NZ$1,297.

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  # 238372 23-Jul-2009 18:34
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I saw this as well. Couldn't find any info on NZ Panasonic website but the HN junkmail that arrived this morning had it in but no details on the NZ specks. If it hasn't got twin NZ HD tuners in this thing is useless. Looks like the good old NZ price gouging is alive and well again.. At $1999 I don't feel at all tempted..




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  # 238375 23-Jul-2009 18:38
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old3eyes: If it hasn't got twin NZ HD tuners in this thing is useless.


It has.

Deev8: The top-line model DMP-BW850 has twin Freeview HD tuners a 500 GB disk and a built-in Bluray player/writer ...
The second Panasonic model is the DMR-XW350 with twin Freeview HD tuners a 250 GB disk and a built-in (upscaling) DVD player/writer.


 
 
 
 


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  # 238376 23-Jul-2009 18:47
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Lets have a look at apples vs apples

DMR-XW350
NZ rpm is NZ$1,297 = 1,035 AU at todays rates
AU RRP AU$1,099.00
AU JB HiFI Price is $991.00 (AUD)

Overall no price gouging here, so lets look at the other model

DMP-BW850
NZ rpm is NZ$1,999 = 1,596 AU at todays rates
AU RRP AU$2,199.00
AU JB HiFI Price is 1,991 (AUD)

I'd say on the Blu-Ray unit we are getting a good price

Now the question is what do the geeks here think these units should be sold at.




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  # 238419 23-Jul-2009 20:11
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Thanx for the feed back..




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Old3eyes


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  # 238661 24-Jul-2009 15:38
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openmedia: Lets have a look at apples vs apples

DMR-XW350
NZ rpm is NZ$1,297 = 1,035 AU at todays rates
AU RRP AU$1,099.00
AU JB HiFI Price is $991.00 (AUD)

Overall no price gouging here, so lets look at the other model

DMP-BW850
NZ rpm is NZ$1,999 = 1,596 AU at todays rates
AU RRP AU$2,199.00
AU JB HiFI Price is 1,991 (AUD)

I'd say on the Blu-Ray unit we are getting a good price
Now the question is what do the geeks here think these units should be sold at.


My thoughts

DVD unit should be $400 or at least would look pretty good at that price.
Bluray unit should be $1200

They have room for a BR/DVDRW unit at $800. I am not sure I see the point of bluray writer when you have a HDD and 1 hour of HDTV should only set you back a DL DVD.

I will not recommend anyone buy them until the price reaches those levels or less.

cheers
db




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  # 238667 24-Jul-2009 15:57
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browned:
openmedia: Lets have a look at apples vs apples

DMR-XW350
NZ rpm is NZ$1,297 = 1,035 AU at todays rates
AU RRP AU$1,099.00
AU JB HiFI Price is $991.00 (AUD)

Overall no price gouging here, so lets look at the other model

DMP-BW850
NZ rpm is NZ$1,999 = 1,596 AU at todays rates
AU RRP AU$2,199.00
AU JB HiFI Price is 1,991 (AUD)

I'd say on the Blu-Ray unit we are getting a good price
Now the question is what do the geeks here think these units should be sold at.


My thoughts

DVD unit should be $400 or at least would look pretty good at that price.
Bluray unit should be $1200

They have room for a BR/DVDRW unit at $800. I am not sure I see the point of bluray writer when you have a HDD and 1 hour of HDTV should only set you back a DL DVD.

I will not recommend anyone buy them until the price reaches those levels or less.

cheers
db


LoL.

Prices aren't that Low in the UK.




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  # 238692 24-Jul-2009 17:50
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browned:
openmedia: Lets have a look at apples vs apples

DMR-XW350
NZ rpm is NZ$1,297 = 1,035 AU at todays rates
AU RRP AU$1,099.00
AU JB HiFI Price is $991.00 (AUD)

Overall no price gouging here, so lets look at the other model

DMP-BW850
NZ rpm is NZ$1,999 = 1,596 AU at todays rates
AU RRP AU$2,199.00
AU JB HiFI Price is 1,991 (AUD)

I'd say on the Blu-Ray unit we are getting a good price
Now the question is what do the geeks here think these units should be sold at.


My thoughts

DVD unit should be $400 or at least would look pretty good at that price.
Bluray unit should be $1200

They have room for a BR/DVDRW unit at $800. I am not sure I see the point of bluray writer when you have a HDD and 1 hour of HDTV should only set you back a DL DVD.

I will not recommend anyone buy them until the price reaches those levels or less.

cheers
db


Back to reality now, I am sure everyone would like to see those prices but when the normal DVD-
R HDD recorder are $600+

I would like to see the prices closer to $1,600 for the bluray version then I'd buy one, but I'd like to see a
Sony one to match my TV.

A question on these units, it says UHF/VHF digital tuner, does this mean that it will or wont work with the Sky dish? we only have the sky dish at home currently and live in the sticks so don't get good signal from normal TV arials.

 
 
 
 


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  # 238693 24-Jul-2009 17:57
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just noticed that the cheaper unit only records in 2 ch stereo, unless I am reading the specs incorrectly.

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  # 238769 24-Jul-2009 21:57
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According to Australian forums the BD recorder records in BDAV format not BDMV format as per 'pressed' discs and therefore is mostly useless when it comes to compatibility. Hardly any (I suspect only BD recorders...) implement the read spec. (including the PS3). Joy.

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# 238779 24-Jul-2009 22:40
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Demo units are here team.  

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  # 238781 24-Jul-2009 22:44
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dickytim:


A question on these units, it says UHF/VHF digital tuner, does this mean that it will or wont work with the Sky dish? we only have the sky dish at home currently and live in the sticks so don't get good signal from normal TV arials.


Noooooo. Will NOT work with sky dish

UHF = rabbit ears/roof antenna pointed at local broadcast transmitter.

Sky dish = Satellite (DVB-S) from Optus D1 up with the fairy magic that is space.

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  # 238868 25-Jul-2009 11:02
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dickytim:
browned:
openmedia: Lets have a look at apples vs apples

DMR-XW350
NZ rpm is NZ$1,297 = 1,035 AU at todays rates
AU RRP AU$1,099.00
AU JB HiFI Price is $991.00 (AUD)

Overall no price gouging here, so lets look at the other model

DMP-BW850
NZ rpm is NZ$1,999 = 1,596 AU at todays rates
AU RRP AU$2,199.00
AU JB HiFI Price is 1,991 (AUD)

I'd say on the Blu-Ray unit we are getting a good price
Now the question is what do the geeks here think these units should be sold at.


My thoughts

DVD unit should be $400 or at least would look pretty good at that price.
Bluray unit should be $1200

They have room for a BR/DVDRW unit at $800. I am not sure I see the point of bluray writer when you have a HDD and 1 hour of HDTV should only set you back a DL DVD.

I will not recommend anyone buy them until the price reaches those levels or less.

cheers
db


Back to reality now, I am sure everyone would like to see those prices but when the normal DVD-
R HDD recorder are $600+

I would like to see the prices closer to $1,600 for the bluray version then I'd buy one, but I'd like to see a
Sony one to match my TV.

A question on these units, it says UHF/VHF digital tuner, does this mean that it will or wont work with the Sky dish? we only have the sky dish at home currently and live in the sticks so don't get good signal from normal TV arials.


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  # 238878 25-Jul-2009 11:39
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Freeview have stated that their will be some Freeview Satellite ready PVRs later in the year.




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  # 238882 25-Jul-2009 13:22
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openmedia: Freeview have stated that their will be some Freeview Satellite ready PVRs later in the year.

However there's nothing unique about New Zealand Freeview Satellite broadcasts - Most countries have adopted the same system for their satellite digital broadcasting, so there are plenty of tried and tested satellite PVRs available. They just don't get the NZ Freeview approved tick (yet).

For instance Topfield have an excellent international reputation and their TF6000PVR ES, which sells for around $900 would satisfy most people's requirements Topfield NZ: TF6000PVR ES 

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  # 238886 25-Jul-2009 13:53
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openmedia: Freeview have stated that their will be some Freeview Satellite ready PVRs later in the year.


You mean one like this one??


http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/ultraplus-f9000hd-digital-satellite-receiverpvr-p-561.html


Still can't see much point of the HD satellite  DVR though  in NZ as theres nothing to receive..


 





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