search engine optimization, where to start?

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#99949 30-Mar-2012 13:59

Hi all, looking for some search engine optimization software to have a play with!

All the sites look like they may take my money and run.

I'm after search engine optimization software to have a play with and try and get my head around it.

where to start?

Thanks

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#602538 30-Mar-2012 14:27

mostly its just marketing BS, search engines are clever enough these days to show the results you mostly want.

a lot of influence is based on pages linking to your site and the actual domain name. you can do meta description, put things in the correct html tags, use words in your pages that will most likely be search but dont over use them.

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#602542 30-Mar-2012 14:35

If you want I can send your details to an "SEO Consultant" who emails me daily telling me all the things I'm doing wrong with a couple of sourceforge project I own :P

Seriously though, I've often thought SEO Software sounds a bit like snake oil - surely you're better off doing some research and following current best practice, than rely on some automated tool to do it for you? Not that I've tried any mind, so take that with a grain of salt.

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#602544 30-Mar-2012 14:40

I get emals daily from "consultants" saying they're based in the US (even though their IP shows them in India) offering services because "[my site] is not showing up on Google". Seriously?

Most SEO "consultants" are nothing more than spammers. Serious one will tell you about creating good quality content, getting people to link to you because of this, and not because you pay someone who will spam forums and blogs with your links.

I have a few stories about this...

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#602589 30-Mar-2012 15:53

Thanks

Well that what i was think till I started talking to "Volkmar und Heike Wollenweber"

He was telling me that 95% of the software out there is rubbish and he has made his full operation around SEO.

He was talking about linking and back linking and all the +++ this software that was spitting out 60 page reports and they looked like they has point that could make a differance.

any way I dont know if i was stucked in..???

i have a lot of people try and talk to me about SEO and must i would not give 1/1000 of a minute to.

he was also on about paying $10K per yrar for the software..

He is turning over big cash as well.

So have i been sucked in or is there a lot of low end crap in the market that does not work and a little top end stuff that works?

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#602594 30-Mar-2012 16:01

Google (The only one who matters, really) will have already figured out how these scams work and discount any of the "tricks" they use.

Don't bother, SEO is a big scam.

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#602728 30-Mar-2012 21:10

Forget SEO software, it's all a waste of time. Get backlinks, but don't pay for them. The easiest way to get backlinks is to create a great site that people want to use.

Hang around www.seomoz.org who have a bunch of tools you can use to analyze your competitors and see why they're ranking etc. One of the best tools they have is http://www.opensiteexplorer.org/ which replaces yahoo's site explorer.

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CADMAX

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#602766 30-Mar-2012 22:44

Noodles: Forget SEO software, it's all a waste of time. Get backlinks, but don't pay for them. The easiest way to get backlinks is to create a great site that people want to use.

Hang around www.seomoz.org who have a bunch of tools you can use to analyze your competitors and see why they're ranking etc. One of the best tools they have is http://www.opensiteexplorer.org/ which replaces yahoo's site explorer.

Thanks mate i'm going to have a good play.

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