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#61327 14-May-2010 08:43
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My colleague is really tempted after seeing my new phone. The only thing he's unsure of is how this device works on XT. Is anyone using it on XT? Can you get 3G and higher on that network, and what happens in "lesser" coverage areas - does it just step down to 2G or equivalent? Sorry, I'm not up with the jargon so these terms are probably used incorrectly. Hoping someone can clear this up for me.

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  #330033 14-May-2010 10:01
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I think you need to get a Desire that is for the XT network, such as the one that is being promoted by Telstra in Australia.  The ones sold by parallel importers here are for the the Vodafone/2degrees network.  You will get basic 2G functions (as I understand it) on XT but none of the advanced 3G features.

From memory Vodafone is a 900/2100 MHz network.  XT is a 850/1900 MHz network.




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  #330035 14-May-2010 10:12
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No XT has no 2G network it is all 3G WCDMA 850 MHz with some WCDMA 2100 MHz in bigger cities. You will need the Telstra version.

 
 
 
 


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  #330036 14-May-2010 10:13
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Hmm....I'm confused now... was just looking at this article http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=8642. I don't think there are multiple models of Desire for different bands - does this mean it won't have 3G or higher on XT in NZ?




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  #330038 14-May-2010 10:18
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DeroyBoy: No XT has no 2G network it is all 3G WCDMA 850 MHz with some WCDMA 2100 MHz in bigger cities. You will need the Telstra version.


Right...so no orders from Clove for the XT network then!




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  #330039 14-May-2010 10:20
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It means you will get no coverage at all across most of the country and limited coverage in major cities on XT with the version you have.

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  #330140 14-May-2010 14:39
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get the telstra "NextG" version from aussie .. it's a 850/2100 version and works flawlessly on xt

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=39&topicid=60684

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  #330197 14-May-2010 17:50
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There are 2 versions of the Desire, the 900/2100 version which you'd want to get if you were on Vodafone, and the 850/2100Mhz version which you'd use if you're on XT. The latter is the same "NextG" one that Telstra is offering in Australia which you can get shipped to NZ from www.mobicity.com.au for a reasonable price.

The Desire will work fine with Telecom XT except you may or may not be able to receive PXT/MMS messages. (Seems to be hit & miss).

Either model will work fine on Vodafone/2Degrees in the 2G GSM-only mode, but then you'll be restricted to EDGE for data, and as mentioned above, since Telecom has no 2G GSM network, you'll need to use the 850/2100 HSPA/WCDMA version if you want the 3G goodness. (Which you do!)




 
 
 
 


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#337732 3-Jun-2010 12:09
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Lambchop: get the telstra "NextG" version from aussie .. it's a 850/2100 version and works flawlessly on xt

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=39&topicid=60684


I have just got the nextg Desire from Mobicity and love the thing. But its not quite flawless in operations on XT.(or at least not yet.)
I can't get a data connection over XT to work. Wifi at home and office is fine.  I can't see the problem. have turned everything in the settings off and on a few times.  Do I have to set an APN or something like I see people doing for the Vodafone units?

Also, I have no trouble syncing using HTC sync except calendar items created in the handset don't change the PC. (But I can modify an existing item on the handset and the change will update the PC)  

This is my first post here, great forum, thanks for any help.

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  #338130 4-Jun-2010 01:11
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yeh you have to check the APN settings, they are in one of the desire threads.

3g works just fine on mine, wifi works, gps works, pxt works, calls work.

the only thing so far i can't get going is XT's mobile TV ..but i think thats because they don't allow it's use on smartphones just yet.


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  #338258 4-Jun-2010 12:36
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Lambchop: yeh you have to check the APN settings, they are in one of the desire threads.

3g works just fine on mine, wifi works, gps works, pxt works, calls work.

the only thing so far i can't get going is XT's mobile TV ..but i think thats because they don't allow it's use on smartphones just yet.



I can't get Pxt to work, which i assume is because I don't have the APN settigns right.

Lampchop could you post your APN settings here?

Also out of curiosity does the little "3g" symbol come up on your set at the top of the phone?  Mine doesn't but the little "H" appears when I have the mobile data turned on.

Cheers 

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#338308 4-Jun-2010 14:07
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I just walked past the Riccarton telecom shop and popped in and a very helpful man called Craig set my APN.  He used the settings he uses on his iphone on XT.  they are:-

All items "not set" except:-

Name      Telecom data
APN      internet.Telecom.co.nz
MMSC      HTTP://LSMMSC.XTRA.CO.NZ 
MMS       proxy 210.55.11.73 
MMS port      80
MMS protocol      WAP 2.0
MCC      550
MNC      05

Those entries are as entered including case.

And it all magically started to work perfectly!  And its not even a handset they stock ! Most impressed Telecom.

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  #338341 4-Jun-2010 16:24
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ah cool, yeh there's really no reason not to import ..works like a charm on xt.

re the H vs 3g ..it should be H , thats the XT network.

if your running the stock telstra rom then make sure you update it to the latest rom, that will fix GPS for you.

http://www.htc.com/au/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=941&news_id=640

or else root it, see other threads.

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  #338365 4-Jun-2010 20:10
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Thanks miner. Is the MCC being 550 correct? When I put that in and saved the APN it disappeared. If I left it at 530 and saved the APN I could see it. Either way I could not get it to send PXTs.

Lambchop the phone came with the new ROM already installed and the GPS works so no worries there.

Yes I have considered rooting it to get rid of the Telstra stuff but might wait until 2.2 comes out and see if that gets rid of it (or am I too optimistic)?

Cheers


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  #338404 4-Jun-2010 22:48
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Damn you are right. Apologies, I checked it twice and can't blame the screen resolution either. It should be 530. I'll amend that post. I haven't checked  pxts as I seldom use them.

Just tried to edit it and can't. Sure hope anyone else reads this far down....

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  #339499 8-Jun-2010 19:35
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Thanks Milner I gave it a go but still no joy with PXT's. Anyone else have any luck?

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