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#62564 9-Jun-2010 23:51
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I've had the idea in mind for a while to make some Android shirts for myself. More as a proof of concept for enabling any future projects of interests - tech or whatever. 

I am not selling shirts. I'm just sharing what I did on the weekend in case anyone else is moved to do the same.

There is a shop on Level 2 at Glenfield Mall that will print or embroider on a shirt - theirs or one of yours - anything you like. You just bring it in on a USB stick in jpeg format and they will do what you ask.

The pics are below. I had three shirts done. Two were embroidered and one is a print with logos front and back.  

1. Plain white t-shirt with green android logo with grey ANDROID text below.  
White T with green android logo







































2. Black polo shirt with blue & cyan Cyanogen android logo. 

Blue and Cyan Cyanogen android logo
 


 


 
























3. Grey t-Shirt with Cyanogen logo on the front and larger CyanogenMod banner on the back.

Grey T-shirt - Front - Cyanogen logo print 








































Grey T-shirt - back - CyanogenMod banner





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  #340045 10-Jun-2010 03:15
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  #340052 10-Jun-2010 07:23
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Very nice! They look really good, well done.




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  #340068 10-Jun-2010 08:30
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Total Win!!!!

Really liking the white with green logo, might have to go get same made up and geek it up at work :)




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  #340072 10-Jun-2010 08:37
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What do they charge for the shirts with your design ? Have thought about it for a few things but never actually checked their pricing there :)




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  #340082 10-Jun-2010 09:17
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That is geeky awesomeness :)
Especially like the top one.
What did that cost to get done?




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  #340084 10-Jun-2010 09:28
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Just be aware that while the OS is open source, the logos are infact registered trademarks of the Open handet Alliance.

From:
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/media_room.html


"Images Rights for the images are reserved. You may use the images, free of charge, solely for inclusion with journalistic coverage of the Open Handset Alliance. For all other uses, please contact us at press@openhandsetalliance.com"

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wellygary: Juat be aware that while the OS is open source, the logos are infact registered trademarks of the Open handet Alliance.

From:
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/media_room.html


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Rights for the images are reserved. You may use the images, free of charge, solely for inclusion with journalistic coverage of the Open Handset Alliance. For all other uses, please contact us at press@openhandsetalliance.com


Yeah...That's why I'm not selling them.

They aren't mine to sell.

I used them for my own private use and I make no money out of it. Classic "fair use" in my view. At worst, I'm providing free (for them) advertising for their product in a non-offensive and 'respectful' context. No dead babies or Hitler effigies anywhere to be seen. :-)

Also....it would be debatable if the Open Handset Alliance owned the Cyanogen Mod logos. I only made one item that isn't explicitly a Cyanogen logo.  




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  #340110 10-Jun-2010 10:45
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The embroidered ones were $25 each for setup of the image, then $10 each for the sewing / printing. Any further use of those images by me is $10 per item as the setup is a one-time charge. 

The printing ones were $10 each, I think.

The shirts ranged in price from $12 to $22.

The total for all three with all logos was $131 (incl GST)....with $50 of that being the setup of the embroidered logos.   

Much cheaper than mail ordering something from the US which wasn't exactly what I wanted anyway. 
 




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  #340115 10-Jun-2010 11:04
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Linuxluver: I used them for my own private use and I make no money out of it.


I would still double check.  The quote wellygary put in specifically says only inclusion with journalistic coverage is when you don't need permission, which a t-shirt/shirt isn't.

I'm sure they won't have an issue, but you never know.  Better safe than sorry.

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  #340154 10-Jun-2010 12:40
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Are you kidding me? I have android logos painted all over my car, lol..

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  #340167 10-Jun-2010 13:04
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jamesyb0i: Are you kidding me? I have android logos painted all over my car, lol..


I can see them reacting to a use that defamed their product or portrayed it in a bad light wrongly (as opposed to being BP.....) 

I doubt very much they want to handle 100,000 or a million individual requests for put a logo on a T-shirt of a car door. There is huge cost there and no direct revenue. Even devoting the resources to saying "no" 100,000 times just reduces the visibility of their own marketing effort...and costs money.  

But I agree with you, James. This kind of use is everyday and just will not be a problem. 




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  #340179 10-Jun-2010 13:20
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Still a good idea to ask though.

Bottom line is we don't have the right to print their logo on a T-shirt unless they give us that right.

Scenarios:
1. You don't ask for permission, and go ahead and use it anyway.
- minimal risk; but you know you are in the wrong.
2. You do ask and they don't respond, and you go a head and use it.
- even less risk; and some degree of moral mitigation. At least you tried, and you could stop using it if they ever asked you to.
3. You do ask, and they say no.
- best not to use it.
4. Yo do ask, and they say yes.
- everyone is happy :)


To me this is similar to other copyright / download / use issues. It's normally about things that people want, and are too lazy or selfish or cheap or self righteous to bother paying for/ asking for permission to use. (Not suggesting you are any of these things linuxluver :) )

It annoys me greatly when it happens. We all know it is rife. I get especially annoyed when people who should know better (like church's & schools) do it.
It could be photocopying huge swathes of or even entire texts; downloading music or software or movies; showing DVDs publicly, etc etc.

One of the key things about this kind of behaviour, is that the material thus used is almost always a "nice-to-have", not a necessary thing.
There is always the choice to just not use the material. Find something else to use/do that is legal and doesn't breach anyone's copyright.

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I would urge caution as well. Unauthorised use of someone else's registered Trademark can get nasty. I would be very unhappy if people used my TM for any reason..

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  #340257 10-Jun-2010 15:58
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AndrewTD: Still a good idea to ask though.

Bottom line is we don't have the right to print their logo on a T-shirt unless they give us that right.

Scenarios:
1. You don't ask for permission, and go ahead and use it anyway.
- minimal risk; but you know you are in the wrong.
2. You do ask and they don't respond, and you go a head and use it.
- even less risk; and some degree of moral mitigation. At least you tried, and you could stop using it if they ever asked you to.
3. You do ask, and they say no.
- best not to use it.
4. Yo do ask, and they say yes.
- everyone is happy :)


To me this is similar to other copyright / download / use issues. It's normally about things that people want, and are too lazy or selfish or cheap or self righteous to bother paying for/ asking for permission to use. (Not suggesting you are any of these things linuxluver :) )

It annoys me greatly when it happens. We all know it is rife. I get especially annoyed when people who should know better (like church's & schools) do it.
It could be photocopying huge swathes of or even entire texts; downloading music or software or movies; showing DVDs publicly, etc etc.

One of the key things about this kind of behaviour, is that the material thus used is almost always a "nice-to-have", not a necessary thing.
There is always the choice to just not use the material. Find something else to use/do that is legal and doesn't breach anyone's copyright.

{I'll just dismount my hobby horse now ;) }




No worries..and it's all good.

In practice, provided someone is aligned with your own promotional goals for your product, you are unlikely to get upset.

Examples are legion. Fan fiction web sites and forums, just for starters. Where trademarks cross over into the realm of cultural artifacts most vendors have shown themselves understanding and tolerant of sympathetic use of their images provided it isn't used to denigrate the product. But even there, as we see in the "BPGlobalPR" twitter channel, there is fair use in employing those symbols and trademarks for comment, parody or satire.

What you definitely can't do is sell a T-shirt with a logo you don't own UNLESS is fits into the freedom of speech / parody thing. There is no shortage of t-shirts and bumber stickers lampooning BP at the moment....and they have the BP logo on them. Maybe that isn't legal....but BP won't be going after them anyway due to the horrendous PR impact doing so would entail. 




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