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  #2868268 14-Feb-2022 16:28
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The outdoor table I mentioned a few weeks ago that our son and I are building is nearing completion. Construction is complete - just oiling and mating of base and top to be done:



looks amazing! 


love your diy shop vac - im going to borrow this idea :) 



Ditto above. Great job. What sort of sander is it that can connect to a vacuum? I’ve been putting off doing a cabinet because of the mess.

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  #2868270 14-Feb-2022 16:30
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Mind sharing the make / model of said saw please?

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  #2868274 14-Feb-2022 16:34
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eracode:

 

The outdoor table I mentioned a few weeks ago that our son and I are building is nearing completion. Construction is complete - just oiling and mating of base and top to be done:

 

 

looks amazing! 

 

love your diy shop vac - im going to borrow this idea :) 

 

 

We gave that DeWalt random orbital sander to our son for Christmas - to use on this job. We particularly wanted one with built-in dust-extraction capability - this one was really the only one we could find that did. It's not just for mess reduction - if you can get the dust out from between the pad and the timber, the sanding is a lot more efficient.





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  #2868275 14-Feb-2022 16:38
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Ge0rge: Mind sharing the make / model of said saw please?

 

 

 





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  #2868277 14-Feb-2022 16:45
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eracode:

[Digital saw pic]

 

 

It's digital in the sense that you use your fingers to press the on/off switch?

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  #2868279 14-Feb-2022 16:47
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Eva888: What sort of sander is it that can connect to a vacuum? I’ve been putting off doing a cabinet because of the mess.

 

 

https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/dewalt-sander-125mm/p/293847

 

We also wanted a powered sander - not battery. This is the only one that's mains powered and has dust-ex. The filter thing in the photo comes off and you can connect a vac hose into the coupling. Even though it seems to be multi-fit, the hose from son's vac didn't quite fit - so we just connected it with duct tape. It worked really well.

 

Both son and I each have an older model, small Hitachi 100x100mm palm sanders. I wasn't sure if the DeWalt would be much different - but it was like night and day. The new sander is highly efficient - I think it's the 'random' part that makes the difference. Our palm sanders aren't random.





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  #2868280 14-Feb-2022 16:53
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Eva888: What sort of sander is it that can connect to a vacuum? I’ve been putting off doing a cabinet because of the mess.

 

 

I've been tempted to get the Karcher 3.5P vac for this using the Bunnings vs. M10 price-beat policy, that seems to be the best cheapie shop vac. So far though I've found it easier to haul the work outside, although it was a pain with the mitre saw when I had to re-set-up and cut about four times due to getting the geometry wrong.

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  #2868281 14-Feb-2022 16:54
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neb:
eracode:

 

[Digital saw pic]

 

It's digital in the sense that you use your fingers to press the on/off switch?

 

It's digital in the sense that there's a display screen on a stalk above the saw that shows the degrees of mitre and/or bevel that you've dialled in. It displays the angles to one decimal place of degree. Of course it all depends on how well the saw is calibrated - this one was fine.





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  #2868346 14-Feb-2022 19:24
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eracode:

Has been a lot of fun and thoroughly enjoyed it. We hired a big compound mitre saw for all the cuts - now son is so impressed with what it was able to do, he's going to buy one. The saw made cuts with sub-millimetre accuracy and the finish on end-grain cuts was like silk. We were able to make high-precision joints, particularly the half-joints around the top of the base/legs - even though we had never used one before. I really wish I had one from when I started my DIY career 50 years ago.



While looking at the specs of the Hiachi C12LSH I came across a few comments that some users found the blade not square to the slide and it had to go to a service centre as no user adjustment. This could be corrected by now but if you buy any product like a mitre saw do a few test cuts to be sure.

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  #2868350 14-Feb-2022 19:47
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eracode:

Has been a lot of fun and thoroughly enjoyed it. We hired a big compound mitre saw for all the cuts - now son is so impressed with what it was able to do, he's going to buy one. The saw made cuts with sub-millimetre accuracy and the finish on end-grain cuts was like silk. We were able to make high-precision joints, particularly the half-joints around the top of the base/legs - even though we had never used one before. I really wish I had one from when I started my DIY career 50 years ago.



While looking at the specs of the Hiachi C12LSH I came across a few comments that some users found the blade not square to the slide and it had to go to a service centre as no user adjustment. This could be corrected by now but if you buy any product like a mitre saw do a few test cuts to be sure.


Or get a cheap magnetic digital angle finder that you attach to the blade before making a cut?

My fairly inexpensive Ryobi has fairly good detents for common degrees and seems pretty spot on. But having it digital and built in sounds useful!

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  #2868430 14-Feb-2022 22:47
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Sorry I should have said "blade not parallel to slide". That's not measurable by an angle gauge.

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  #2868437 15-Feb-2022 00:07
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Bung: Sorry I should have said "blade not parallel to slide". That's not measurable by an angle gauge.

 

What if you use a test piece of wood to be cut?





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  #2868440 15-Feb-2022 00:38
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elpenguino:

Bung: Sorry I should have said "blade not parallel to slide". That's not measurable by an angle gauge.


What if you use a test piece of wood to be cut?



Yeah start at 90 and measure for square. Either from fence to blade, or the resulting cut

If not 90degrees to fence then I have a cheap but seemingly accurate to two decimal places angle finder that looks like a square but has an adjustable angle. As EVE on YouTube says, good enough for the girls I go out with :)

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  #2868448 15-Feb-2022 07:19
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You mean AVE the antimandate trucker's friend?


The angle gauge I'm thinking of is the type that sticks on the blade to measure bevel

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  #2868517 15-Feb-2022 10:24
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Bung: 

The angle gauge I'm thinking of is the type that sticks on the blade to measure bevel

 

 

 

 

I have one of those.  Fantastic tool.  You put it on the table surface, zero it and then onto the blade.  It gives you the relative angle, so ti doesn't matter if the saw bench is perfectly level.  I've checked with a DIN875/0 mitre squares at 90* and 45* and it's accurate.

 

BTW on the subject of sanders that can attach to a vac, just look for sanders with a vac attachment nozzle on them. You can also attach a vac to a nozzle to a dust bag.  Depending on the diameter of the nozzle vs your vac and adapter may need to be made.

 

Some workshop vacs have an electrical outlet on them, to plug a tool into.  The vac runs automatically when the tool runs.  Only works with mains powered tools obviously.





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