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#3018608 8-Jan-2023 15:56

neb:
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internal gutters should be a double gutter system.

Internal gutters should be consigned to one of the circles of hell that are being discussed in the Trump thread. They're about as suitable for use in the NZ climate as Arizona-style plaster/monolithic-clad homes.

agreed.

what doesn't help is house designs with things like reversed pitch roofs. or the gutter is multiple stories up with no easy access, and often on a boundary wall where you get arguments over who is responsible for maintenance.

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#3018804 9-Jan-2023 01:58

Senecio:

eracode:

@Senecio Just saw your post again - interested to know how it’s going.

@eracode. Funny you should ask. I dropped into this thread yesterday and though I should post an update.

Progress has been slow. Primarily due to high demand for the conversion kits as a result of many European cities banning 2-stroke scooters due to emissions, and COVID shipping lead times. The bulk of the kit only arrived the week before Christmas, I'm still waiting on the battery and charger as they were sent by sea freight.

This is how it currently stands.

I have installed the swing arm, hub motor assembly using all of the original mounting hardware and rear shock. A little persuasion was required as I'm not sure factory tolerances in Italy in the 60's was that high meaning quite a bit of variation from scooter to scooter. And while my scoot looks to be quite original, I'm sure its had some panel work in its 56 year history.

The control box is also installed behind that engine cover. The control box houses the motor controller and e-throttle as well as the DC-DC converter to step down the 64V battery voltage to 12V to run the lights and horn etc...

The next jobs are to route the wiring loom through the frame, its about as simple as wiring looms can get, and to rebuild the head-set / steering assembly. My local scooter shop as ordered some parts that are due in this weekend so I can freshen up the front end (upper and lower steering bearings, new speedo cable and front brake cable). Once that is all done it will be all ready to go, just waiting on the battery to power it.

In good news this week, when I got the scooter last year I could not find the original speedo in the various boxes of bits that came with it. While rummaging around yesterday I found it, and while sourcing a replacement wouldn't have been to difficult or costly I think having the original just sets off the resto-mod them well.

@Senecio Keen to hear of any progress you’ve made on this neat project.

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#3018812 9-Jan-2023 02:21

eracode:
@senecio Keen to hear of any progress you’ve made on this neat project.

And I have a question, what units is that speedo in if it goes up to 80? Is it furlongs per hour?

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#3021340 14-Jan-2023 16:58

@neb @eracode

This how the Scoot currently stands. It is fully rebuilt but unfortunately still not powered.

Let's start with the good. I have completely rebuilt the front end. All new steering bearings, brake and speedometer cables. Rebuilt the front drum brake and got the original speedo working. I've run the full wiring loom through the frame and installed the e-throttle. I've installed the floor runners after restoring the original aluminium outers and installing new rubber inners. And finally the chrome leg shield trim has been installed after getting them back from the electro platers as they were heavily pitted.

So why is it not running? The first battery was seized by customs and eventually returned to China. The supplier sent a second battery via Melbourne to hopefully get through customs that way. Unfortunately once it got to Melbourne it was difficult to find a courier/shipping company that would ship it across the Tasman. We eventually found one but they wanted more than the cost of the battery to ship it so it remains in Melbourne.

After plenty of back and forth the supplier agreed to refund the cost of the battery and he sent me the box, BMS and Anderson plugs to build my own battery. That arrived just before Christmas. I've now ordered all of the consumables that I need (Nickel strip, silicon wire, Kapton tape) and a generic spot welder. Once they arrive I will source the 18650 cells locally and get about building the battery.

I'll probably just get it on the road in time for the end of the summer. 🙄

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#3021341 14-Jan-2023 17:01

And a couple more photos. The second photo has the engine cover open. Behind there is the control box for everything. The battery will eventually go under the seat where the petrol tank would have sat.

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#3021347 14-Jan-2023 17:13

It looks beautiful. Really impressive job. Also impressed that you are building your own batteries. Pity that officials can be such dicks about some things.

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#3021368 14-Jan-2023 18:34

neb:
eracode:

@senecio Keen to hear of any progress you’ve made on this neat project.

And I have a question, what units is that speedo in if it goes up to 80? Is it furlongs per hour?

Terminal velocity if free fall....so it read about right

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#3021370 14-Jan-2023 19:04

From my memory of following Vespas the gauge measures the angle between the rider's feet. The faster it went the further apart the toes pointed. In reality I don't think there was room on the running board for winklepickers to tuck in.

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#3021371 14-Jan-2023 19:08

Incidentally, the furlongs per hour was chosen because it could be an actual speed, a furlong is around 200m so it's roughly km/h divided by five.

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#3021373 14-Jan-2023 19:18

neb:
eracode:

@senecio Keen to hear of any progress you’ve made on this neat project.

And I have a question, what units is that speedo in if it goes up to 80? Is it furlongs per hour?

I missed this question.

The Speedo is km/h. From the factory it had a 0.6kw 50cc two stroke motor with cable operated drum brakes front and rear. It was only designed to go ~55km/h. Now with a 3Kw electric motor it will do 95km/h if I'm brave or stupid enough to get it up there. I won't be taking it much past its original design speed go 55-60km/h so an 80km/h speedo is not a limitation.

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#3021733 15-Jan-2023 21:47

Current project replacing the verandah

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#3039545 20-Feb-2023 17:50

Maybe there's a thread on this already but I'm not seeing it ... has anyone actually gone ahead and wired their home so that they can power their home from their EV?

hmm, now that won't be DIY lol sorry, wrong thread

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#3039549 20-Feb-2023 17:58

MadEngineer:
Maybe there's a thread on this already but I'm not seeing it ... has anyone actually gone ahead and wired their home so that they can power their home from their EV?

It's being discussed in the solar thread, which covers a lot of bases.

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#3053506 22-Mar-2023 22:12

Anyone recommend a good paint for a wooden verandah deck? I've been thinking of an epoxy paint as I want it sealed and hard wearing,

Current project about half way done laying the tongue and groove.

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#3064334 16-Apr-2023 15:24

Project E-Vespa is getting closer to a reality.

Construction of the battery has begun. This will eventually be an 18S8P configuration to make a 64V 24Ah battery pack. I was initially aiming for a 26-28Ah battery pack but the expert advice I received was to use a slightly lower capacity 18650 cell that would offer a higher discharge current. I ended up choosing Samsung INR18650-30Q cells which provide a maximum continuous discharge rate of 15Amps. In an 8P battery pack that will give me a maximum theoretical current of 120Amp. My 3Kw continuous (4Kw max burst) electric motor will draw ~80Amps under full acceleration. That means I'll only be drawing ~67% of the battery pack max current under hard acceleration.

This will mean less voltage sag, less heat and longer life of my battery pack. So in theory, whilst I start with a lower capacity battery pack, I should be able to retain more of that capacity for longer as I won't be putting it under as much stress.

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