lxsw20: ?? The Subaru NZ website shows the WRX and WRX STI both come in 6 speed manual. 

joker97:

Trunks2: My dad just got a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (the V8 one) after after comparing it to the likes of a Commodore R8, Audi Q5, Merc SUV etc, huge step up from his VE Commodore R8 and it was much better value than the competition.

Its a beast, very quick. handles well and sounds awesome :P, not very good on gas as you would expect but very comfortable and he takes it up to the ski fields no worries.

this one here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LU2DjkiAI4

The diesel one was good too (has air suspension which the SRT does not), over 1000km to a tank apparantly, but no comparison to a V8 :P

yes I did consider the SRT ... but at that price you'd get the RRSport 2015 no brainer

Technofreak: My vote would be for the Holden.  I have test driven a VF Calais V8 and I rate it.

I have owned a Commodore since they first arrived in New Zealand buying one of the first NZ assembled VB's.  Every one I've had has given great service. VB SL, VC SL, VL Calais, and VY S.  The VL had done 275,000 when I sold it, the VY has just clicked over 300,000 Km.

The later model Falcons seem to be pretty good too.  The XR6 turbo is pretty quick and smooth, but then the V8 SS sounds nice and has good low down grunt and has goes to 4 cylinder mode during deceleration to save fuel. I think the Holden drives nicer than the Ford, but then that's just personal preference.  In the end between the two it comes down to the features one or the other has that you have a need for or that appeal to you.

I wouldn't worry about the factories closing down. There's plenty of both the Holden and Ford been sold, there's a big enough market for spares.  They wont be abandoned.

joker97:

coffeebaron: Ford

thanks ... I've always been a ford man as everytime the all blacks appear and XR6 goes with it - so sponsorship works eh

joker97:

ilovemusic: highlander ?
every generation has handled like a bag of pooz.

$50k-ish will get you a used range rover sport.
but best have a few quid tucked away for the inevitable repairs.

my pick would be a porsche cayenne.
much better built than any rr, faster and almost as capable off road.
lots to choose form for the price of a holden or ford.

gosh you're right the Porsche is dirt cheap! but my friend's friend had one and it couldn't do a grocery run without stopping at the pump!