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# 143374 12-Apr-2014 19:25
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Try to understand my car's manual (a Honda Edix ), I understand it is something about petrol type, but don't understand exactly what is means, as there are two lines of possible petrol types but none with some numbers?

I am pretty sure that regualr 91 is safe to use as it is a reasonable new car (2005) and not a racer car, but still curious about the it, and I also tried an on-line OCR tools and the output is crap, I am guessing it is hard for OCR because it is Japanese.

What petrol does my car's manual recommand?

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  # 1024114 12-Apr-2014 19:29
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91 is fine

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  # 1024119 12-Apr-2014 19:46
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91 is all good. 95-98 is just a con to make you pay more.

91 is a luxury anyway! America's 'standard' petrol is 85-87 and 'premium' is 91.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1024120 12-Apr-2014 19:48
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I also recently bought an Edix - a 2006 which I've been happily been running on 91 unleaded.  I recently used the google translate app on my phone to decipher some of the stereo.  According to that, your screen shot says specified fuel: unleaded regular gas (unleaded high octane also use)



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  # 1024131 12-Apr-2014 19:58
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shk292: I also recently bought an Edix - a 2006 which I've been happily been running on 91 unleaded.  I recently used the google translate app on my phone to decipher some of the stereo.  According to that, your screen shot says specified fuel: unleaded regular gas (unleaded high octane also use)


Thanks for that, I always put 91 on my cars, just want to know what the manual says, that all.

Just got the car today for my wife, I am most play with the gadgets today, seem the previous owner put a HDD insides and there are heaps of songs, but I think they are all Janpanes :(

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chevrolux: 91 is all good. 95-98 is just a con to make you pay more.

91 is a luxury anyway! America's 'standard' petrol is 85-87 and 'premium' is 91.


I heard they use a system oveseas that you cannot compare number to number ....

95/98 is sometimes used in Euro cars and high performance cars.  Didn't someone here or in Oz, a latest cop car might have been a Holden put in 91 and it needed servicing ...

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  # 1024134 12-Apr-2014 20:02
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pstar008:
shk292: I also recently bought an Edix - a 2006 which I've been happily been running on 91 unleaded.  I recently used the google translate app on my phone to decipher some of the stereo.  According to that, your screen shot says specified fuel: unleaded regular gas (unleaded high octane also use)


Thanks for that, I always put 91 on my cars, just want to know what the manual says, that all.

Just got the car today for my wife, I am most play with the gadgets today, seem the previous owner put a HDD insides and there are heaps of songs, but I think they are all Janpanes :(

The stereo in ours has a HDD called "sound container" that automatically rips any CD you put in.  It was bizarrely full of Hawaiian music when we got it (freshly imported).  One of my translation tasks was finding out how to delete CDs from the HDD,  Unfortunately the sound system is a non-DIN size and the radio doesn't work very well with a band expander so we're evaluating options for a sound upgrade.  Great car though, although not as economical as I expected

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  # 1024135 12-Apr-2014 20:04
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chevrolux: 91 is all good. 95-98 is just a con to make you pay more.

91 is a luxury anyway! America's 'standard' petrol is 85-87 and 'premium' is 91.


It really depends on the car and what it's tuned for with most European vehicles requiring 95 because that's the standard in Europe. Most European cars will run very rough on 91 with terrible engine knocking, hence the recommendation to follow what the manufacturer says.

I'm pretty sure all US petrol is 91 octane. Japan uses 91 as well.









 
 
 
 




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  # 1024141 12-Apr-2014 20:09
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shk292:
pstar008:
shk292: I also recently bought an Edix - a 2006 which I've been happily been running on 91 unleaded.  I recently used the google translate app on my phone to decipher some of the stereo.  According to that, your screen shot says specified fuel: unleaded regular gas (unleaded high octane also use)


Thanks for that, I always put 91 on my cars, just want to know what the manual says, that all.

Just got the car today for my wife, I am most play with the gadgets today, seem the previous owner put a HDD insides and there are heaps of songs, but I think they are all Janpanes :(

The stereo in ours has a HDD called "sound container" that automatically rips any CD you put in.  It was bizarrely full of Hawaiian music when we got it (freshly imported).  One of my translation tasks was finding out how to delete CDs from the HDD,  Unfortunately the sound system is a non-DIN size and the radio doesn't work very well with a band expander so we're evaluating options for a sound upgrade.  Great car though, although not as economical as I expected


Aha, another mystery solved, thank you again!

No I don't think this car will be very economy. I've got the 2.0 version and it have a 58l tank! and it drives not like any other smaller cars I droved before. 1.7 one might be better.

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  # 1024149 12-Apr-2014 20:24
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chevrolux: 91 is all good. 95-98 is just a con to make you pay more.

91 is a luxury anyway! America's 'standard' petrol is 85-87 and 'premium' is 91.


they used a different standard in the US

Japan uses RON, the US used MON they are different. NZ uses RON

"The MON of a modern gasoline will be about 8 to 10 points lower than the RON"

Generally speaking the American 91 is about our 98 and their 87 is our 95

sbiddle:
I'm pretty sure all US petrol is 91 octane. Japan uses 91 as well.


Nope, see above as well

"In most areas regular gasoline is 87 octane, midgrade is 89 and premium is 91 – 93"

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  # 1024151 12-Apr-2014 20:31
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Try a few tanks of 95 and see if you get better mileage out of it.

There is no con of using higher octane fuels on high CR/forced induction engines. Miti GDI engines hate 91 for example and they arn't exactly race engines.

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  # 1024155 12-Apr-2014 20:38
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the 2.0l model might benefit from running 95, but the 1.7l probably wont

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  # 1024184 12-Apr-2014 21:18
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pstar008: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7b3s4vxfmhldhw3/2014-04-12%2018.22.24S.jpg


It means petrol without plumbum - regular or hi octane.





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  # 1024188 12-Apr-2014 21:31
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pstar008: Try to understand my car's manual (a Honda Edix ), I understand it is something about petrol type, but don't understand exactly what is means, as there are two lines of possible petrol types but none with some numbers?

I am pretty sure that regualr 91 is safe to use as it is a reasonable new car (2005) and not a racer car, but still curious about the it, and I also tried an on-line OCR tools and the output is crap, I am guessing it is hard for OCR because it is Japanese.

What petrol does my car's manual recommand?

Don't know what's wrong with passing Dropbox url as Image source, but it is working now, I am posting the actual url, that should work.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7b3s4vxfmhldhw3/2014-04-12%2018.22.24S.jpg


Running that through Google translate says that "Regular unleaded gas" is to be used, but that Higher can be used.

Japans "Regular" is about 94-95 RON .. so if you put 91RON in it here you'll get a bit of pinking going on (the lower octane fuel igniting prematurely under compression), so put in 95.

Ignore the cr@p comments about higher octanes being a con, they are sold at the pump for a reason, higher compression engines need fuel that will not ignite before the spark plug initiates the ignition (if the piston is on the way up the cylinder and the fuel ignites under compression before it has got all the way to the top it causes issues), your car is probably a medium-ish compression engine in comparison to other cars.

Wikipedia has a reasonably good article about octane ratings ... here in NZ we use RON at the pumps.


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  # 1024207 12-Apr-2014 22:33
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It's worth trying higher octane fuel in your car, it's cheaper by a few cents per km to run 95 octane in a Toyota Vitz. My fuel app tells me that... modern vehicles often have knock sensors, so you lose power and efficiency with too lower an octane.

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pstar008: Try to understand my car's manual (a Honda Edix ), I understand it is something about petrol type, but don't understand exactly what is means, as there are two lines of possible petrol types but none with some numbers?

I am pretty sure that regualr 91 is safe to use as it is a reasonable new car (2005) and not a racer car, but still curious about the it, and I also tried an on-line OCR tools and the output is crap, I am guessing it is hard for OCR because it is Japanese.

What petrol does my car's manual recommand?

Don't know what's wrong with passing Dropbox url as Image source, but it is working now, I am posting the actual url, that should work.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7b3s4vxfmhldhw3/2014-04-12%2018.22.24S.jpg


First line in bold states

Fuel Specification: Lead Free Regular Gasoline

second line

Premium High Octane is also suitable.

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