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Topic # 242094 10-Oct-2018 14:35
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Some vehicles are sold without a spare wheel, either full-sized or a space saver. Instead, they might come with a puncture repair kit that can include a tyre sealant and an inflator. I know of one second-hand imported vehicle that had no spare wheel, spare tyre, or puncture repair kit!

 

For example, electric vehicles don’t seem to come with a spare wheel because of the space needed to house the batteries.

 

I was talking to the Automobile Assn (AA) about this situation and asked their advice about what happens if you don’t have a spare wheel or spare tyre and you need help to repair a puncture when you are a long way away from the nearest garage etc.

 

I was advised that, the AA won’t attempt repairs using your puncture repair kit and that they don’t carry such kits either. In these circumstances, the best the AA can do is to arrange a tow truck for you so that your car can be towed, at your expense, to the nearest garage.

 

However, if you carry a spare tyre or a spare wheel, the AA can get you going again.

 

I realise that most people should be able to use a puncture repair kit to make temporary repairs when there is a puncture, but some people mightn’t be able to do this and might have to rely on places like the AA for help.

 

The AA advised that they don’t recommend the use of puncture repair kits as they aren’t always reliable. In addition, the AA doesn’t repair punctures as part of their service.

 

So, if you purchase a vehicle that doesn’t come with a spare wheel, would you think it’s a good idea to carry a spare tyre or even buy a space-saver wheel?

 

But if you’re happy with a puncture repair kit, what type would you recommend purchasing and what should it contain? Thanks for your help with this.


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  Reply # 2105627 10-Oct-2018 14:42
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Those aerosol kits make a real mess inside the tyre that can make it difficult to perform a proper repair later. Having said that, how often do you get a puncture, willing to take the risk? They'll also only fix minor leaks, not a total tyre failure.


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  Reply # 2105628 10-Oct-2018 14:43
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Even if you have a "can-o-goo" you still need to find a pump to re inflate the tyre,


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  Reply # 2105630 10-Oct-2018 14:44
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Ive seen the aftermath of those puncture repair kits with gooey junk!
Expect a hefty wheel cleaning bill to go with your hefty bill for most likely runflat tires and replacing the other tire on the same axle to match wear. Yeah yeah nah, Not for me.






 


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  Reply # 2105634 10-Oct-2018 14:47
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wellygary:

 

Even if you have a "can-o-goo" you still need to find a pump to re inflate the tyre,

 

 

the ones i have seen can do both, fix the puncture and inflate the tyre.





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  Reply # 2105635 10-Oct-2018 14:49
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vexxxboy:

 

wellygary:

 

Even if you have a "can-o-goo" you still need to find a pump to re inflate the tyre,

 

 

the ones i have seen can do both, fix the puncture and inflate the tyre.

 

 

 

 

I'd love to see how that works, Gravity seems to make the gooo go to the bottom and if it were to expand, id say it would be overly even.. 





 


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  Reply # 2105651 10-Oct-2018 15:10
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You call (walk to somewhere you can call) roadside assist.

 

Punctures are so rare. 

 

I just did a quick mental add up ... in >700,000km of motoring across four vehicles I can count 8 punctures.  4 of them were in the first three months on the Monza tyres my Primera came with.  After I switched to Firehawks it did >200,00km with only one puncture (screw).

 

I can think of five other vehciels I've owned and never had a puncture on.

 

I'm guessing less than a dozen punctures in >25 years of motoring and no punctures on a car I've driven since about 2005.





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  Reply # 2105654 10-Oct-2018 15:15
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Having had Two of these in my car.. I'd never be without a saver...

 

Both occasions have been in no signal areas in gravelly secluded areas- That satphone call wasn't fun..

 

 

 

Suppose it depends on your situation. If i was just Inner/Outer City driving it wouldn't really phase me.

 

 





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  Reply # 2105657 10-Oct-2018 15:21
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I have been driving for 20 years and have never had a flat tyre. I am happy to tolerate a puncture repair kit for a once-in-20-years experience.

 

It would be interesting to know how the vehicle manufacturers' roadside assistance services deal with this situation.


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  Reply # 2105685 10-Oct-2018 16:10
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Nope, spare wheel for me.  I don't even mind if it's a space saver.  Had only about 2 or 3 times i have needed to use the spare.  I don't know if i trust those kits and i hear that they expire and can cost a bit to replace.


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  Reply # 2105701 10-Oct-2018 16:23
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Two punctures driving into town and back within the past year. Without a spare I would literally have been up the proverbial creek without a paddle. I would never contemplate buying a car that doesn't come with a spare tyre. I never heard of such nonsense!

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 2105702 10-Oct-2018 16:24
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MikeAqua:

 

Punctures are so rare. 

 

I just did a quick mental add up ... in >700,000km of motoring across four vehicles I can count 8 punctures.  4 of them were in the first three months on the Monza tyres my Primera came with.  After I switched to Firehawks it did >200,00km with only one puncture (screw).

 

 

 

 

Uhuh, it's not the tyres it's what you drive over.

 

We've had a few - husband had a bad habit of dropping screws and such all over the garage floor....

 

Cured him of that now.

 

 

 

The only other time, we drive very little now, tyres were still ok as far as tread went but one split....

 

 

 

Sons Merc has no spare, mental IMO, I would get one anyway and carry it just in the boot, tyre space or not.

 

 




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  Reply # 2105819 10-Oct-2018 18:15
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Nope, spare wheel for me.  I don't even mind if it's a space saver.  Had only about 2 or 3 times i have needed to use the spare.  I don't know if i trust those kits and i hear that they expire and can cost a bit to replace.

 

 

Spare tyre vs spare wheel?

 

If your vehicle doesn't come with a spare wheel, do you think it would just be adequate to buy a spare tyre or would you prefer to buy a space saver wheel with tyre?

 

I guess the AA could do an on-the-spot tyre change but I suppose it would be easier if you had a spare wheel rather than just a spare tyre? With a spare wheel "most" people could change wheels, but you wouldn't find it very easy to just change the tyre?




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  Reply # 2105821 10-Oct-2018 18:26
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Rikkitic:

 

Two punctures driving into town and back within the past year. Without a spare I would literally have been up the proverbial creek without a paddle. I would never contemplate buying a car that doesn't come with a spare tyre. I never heard of such nonsense!

 

 

 

 

 

 

This article throws some light on why this is happening:

 

https://www.wired.com/2015/11/automakers-are-sacrificing-the-spare-tire-for-fuel-economy/

 

Extract:

 

Why is this eminently practical item getting tossed? It’s the fuel economy, stupid. As carmakers struggle to achieve maximum miles per gallon, they’re shaving off anything resembling dead weight to make vehicles lighter. A 50-pound backup system many customers never use is a tempting target, and comes with the added benefit of having more space to dedicated for passenger space or storage.

 

The weight of the vehicle is particularly important with electric vehicles. Consider this, the petrol version of the elite Hyundai Kona ($42,000) comes with a compact spare wheel and tyre, but the electric version, which costs nearly $40,000 more ($80,000), doesn't have a spare wheel, just a tyre inflator kit.

 

I have also read a few reports from Nissan Leaf owners that Leafs don't have a spare wheel either, but perhaps a Leaf owner could confirm this? And the electric BMW i3 doesn't have a spare wheel. To be fair, I think some petrol cars are also doing without a spare wheel.

 

 


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  Reply # 2105838 10-Oct-2018 19:12
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Those aerosol kits make a real mess inside the tyre that can make it difficult to perform a proper repair later. Having said that, how often do you get a puncture, willing to take the risk? They'll also only fix minor leaks, not a total tyre failure.

 

 

 

 

I have just had a puncture on a mazda 3. That only has a space saver, so it is a PITA, as you can't drive over 80km/hr, ad it isn't really recommended to drive on it until you have got the original repaired. But that is still better than no spare tyre at all. I probably wouldn't buy a car that doesn't have a spare. 


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  Reply # 2105842 10-Oct-2018 19:18
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The arrogance of this kind of thing irritates me. Just make space for the damned wheel and let me decide if I want to extend my range or not.

 

 





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