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  #3488349 7-May-2026 09:31
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mudguard:

 

The problem with this is the Olly Bearman crash. Closing speeds vastly different. It's not the same as tyre management in the past where they'd go a few seconds a lap slower. You had one driver super clipping and another in overtake mode.

 

I have nothing against electric in general. But if you look at the qualifying error that Leclerc made in China I think, where he had the rear end slip, lifted off the throttle to save it, then the ECU said, oh you were less than 95% throttle you naughty boy, now you must have full energy deployment for the next straight and he ran out of battery before the end of the lap because the rules are written than you must use an equal power split (IE no driving round on full ICE to save the battery).

 

It's utter madness. 

 



This. 

And fundamentally the action is also feeling more manufactured.  Yes there is more passing, but it's often due to a difference in energy storage vs deployment at that point in time, and can quickly swap back around.  I do find myself (like the loss of trust that AI has impacted on any cool video you see nowadays) not fully believing the pass has been done, because you don't know what energy levels the overtaken car is building up to deploy a few corners later.




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  #3488369 7-May-2026 10:45
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Jaxson:

 

And fundamentally the action is also feeling more manufactured.  

 

 

Precisely. And for many long-term F1 followers it has now tipped over the edge and is feeling too manufactured. Don't often agree with Lance Stroll but he's bang-on when he described these regs last year as a "science project" rather than F1 and "a bit sad".


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  #3488522 7-May-2026 18:40
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 he had the rear end slip, lifted off the throttle to save it, then the ECU said, oh you were less than 95% throttle…..

 



I was under the impression the driver has liftoff control of recharging. I think glancing at the f1 site, they lose active aero when doing this.





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  #3488547 7-May-2026 20:50
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mudguard:

 

 he had the rear end slip, lifted off the throttle to save it, then the ECU said, oh you were less than 95% throttle…..

 



I was under the impression the driver has liftoff control of recharging. I think glancing at the f1 site, they lose active aero when doing this.

 

 

It's so much more complicated. The teams will programme the engines for less deployment out of corners into short straights etc. Honestly it does my head in (and Leclerc's), the same with the power ramp down trick Merc and Red Bull figured out for qualifying (now banned) where instead of running out of battery in 25kW stages (so over a race a quicker lap) they just took the full electric power cut in one hit. For qualifying, so it meant they'd get across the line flat out and accept the 50% total power reduction during the next lap which of course doesn't matter in qualifying. 


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  #3489221 9-May-2026 18:35
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I would expect there to be a lot of programming of the engine and motor, given the car can have different race modes.  To me There is no point deploying power when the car can’t use it, or the strategy means its non-optimal.  Likewise, there is no point keeping it when its optimal to use it.

 

I would think each circuit will have an optimal energy deployment plan for a given car and strategy.  Also, it will change given different circuit conditions and what tires are being used.

 

Another way of thinking about it, having more torque from the motor or engine can mean an increase in temperature of the tire which given a medium or soft compound may have an effect on the race strategy.

 

 





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  #3489235 9-May-2026 20:29
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TwoSeven:

 

I would expect there to be a lot of programming of the engine and motor, given the car can have different race modes.  To me There is no point deploying power when the car can’t use it, or the strategy means its non-optimal.  Likewise, there is no point keeping it when its optimal to use it.

 

I would think each circuit will have an optimal energy deployment plan for a given car and strategy.  Also, it will change given different circuit conditions and what tires are being used.

 

 

These are valid points. The dilemma is they don't have enough energy to do a full lap. And because of the requirement of a 50/50 deployment until it runs out, it causes issues like Leclerc's. 


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