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Topic # 240476 10-Sep-2018 09:18
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I woke this morning to the news that Niomi Osaka had won her first US Open (and Japans), but that it was mired in controversy.

 

Apparently Serena had a meltdown that cost her first a warning, then a point, and finally a game, before losing to Osaka.

 

I feel Serena is mostly at fault here. Her behaviour was pretty grim, even if she was right (which strictly speaking re the coaching claim she was not, as admitted by her coach). 

 

She has probably ruined Osaka's big moment as a result, something Osaka could feel rightfully aggrieved about. 

 

I definately understand how easy it is to let your emotions get away with you, I have given away Squash matches over umpiring decisions, but I 100% understand it's MY choice to behave this way, and my decision to let it affect my match ongoing. Sometimes you get calls against you. Sometimes they are wrong, but *I* take responsibility for my decisions and my behaviour and I think Serena should as well. I understand she may need some time to reflect and gather her emotions, but in my view, she owes Osaka an apology and proper and heartfelt congratulations and should make a statement to the effect her behaviour wasn't acceptable.

 

If she doesn't do this, I will have a lot less respect for her. I would imagine that will be the overall feeling from most fans as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2086697 10-Sep-2018 09:39
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I watched it live. Serena was at fault. She was warned. Breaking a racquet is a black and while code violation. Calling the umpire a liar and thief.  The tennis world is split according to the news. Margaret Court said she was being beaten by the younger player, that's what began this episode. And she is not bigger than the game, despite her amazing record. I fully agree, Osaka was on top all through, held her nerve well, a magic performance. Played like a match hardened player.   The sad thing is, who is Naomi Osaka? Its all about Serena. The news should be all about the winner, she is small, shy, a great story, the next generation and so on.  I feel sorry for her, but you will see her again, no doubt about that.  


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  Reply # 2086709 10-Sep-2018 09:47
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The Tennis world like so many sports is not an even feild when it comes to gender balance, 





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  Reply # 2086713 10-Sep-2018 09:54
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MikeB4:

 

The Tennis world like so many sports is not an even feild when it comes to gender balance, 

 

 

But on field is not where this needs to change.

 

Are you excusing her behaviour?

 

 


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  Reply # 2086714 10-Sep-2018 09:55
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MikeB4:

 

The Tennis world like so many sports is not an even feild when it comes to gender balance, 

 

 

Maybe but at least all women are on a level playing field. 

 

That umpire followed the book.

 

Serena has form for abusing officials. 

 

Her coach admitted he was coaching.

 

Serena should apologise.

 

Very fair comment here, I thought: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2018/sep/09/serena-williams-womens-treatment-tennis-us-open-final

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2086715 10-Sep-2018 09:56
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MikeB4:

 

The Tennis world like so many sports is not an even feild when it comes to gender balance, 

 

 

 

 

Gender balance is an easy way out IMHO.

 

The warning was for coaching, that is correct, the coach admitted it

 

The smashed racquet is a code violation

 

He let the abuse go, until he was called a cheat

 

 

 

No gender imbalance there, Serena was under pressure being soundly beaten by a no name. Who, sadly still remains a no name now

 

 


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I'm a long time admirer of SW but .. her behaviour was inexcusable.  It was also forgiveable if she had shown contrition and acknowledged she was out of line and apologised.  Instead she deflected and claimed sexism.  That claim doesn't stack up, because: -

 

- Her own coach (a man) admitted the coaching violation;

 

- Men have been pinged for similar violations for as long as I have been teaching tennis (starting with McInroe);

 

- The umpire was patient with her behaviour until crossed a line that left him no option;

 

- When she switched like a chameleon from aggressive tantrum to tearful pleading with the female officials, they backed the umpire.

 

The claim of sexism is a pathetic and childish deflection.

 

SW publicly predict she would bounce back to top rank on her return to professional tennis.  When she did this, she put immense pressure on herself. 

 

 





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  Reply # 2086846 10-Sep-2018 12:56
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I thought her comment that he will never umpire on her court again was the telling one.

Reigning champion and one of the most powerful players in the game threatens the career of an official..

Interview on rnz this morning mentions she has form for bad behaviour including one losing a championship final because of it. So it's not a one off event.

And what the fxxx was her reference to being a mother all about...

She lost the first set, was behind in the second.
Pressure building and she lost it...



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  Reply # 2086849 10-Sep-2018 13:04
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"I want to set an example to my Daughter, and to other women. " (Paraphrased).

 

 

 

Really?! That's how you want to do this?!

 

 


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  Reply # 2086850 10-Sep-2018 13:06
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afe66: I thought her comment that he will never umpire on her court again was the telling one.

Reigning champion and one of the most powerful players in the game threatens the career of an official..

Interview on rnz this morning mentions she has form for bad behaviour including one losing a championship final because of it. So it's not a one off event.

And what the fxxx was her reference to being a mother all about...

She lost the first set, was behind in the second.
Pressure building and she lost it...

 

Didn't hear the never umpire comment, she is bigger than the game it seems.

 

The mother comment is sympathy seeking, and it is also sexist, using her gender and motherhood as a lever.

 

What really annoys me is the sexism raised. Its been with humans since the cavemen days, its a lot better now. This situation is based on tennis rules. But its poor when the sexist card is pulled put. It diminishes gains made when its played with by some in the media and in the sport. Maybe tennis should be a 100% fair sport, no gender seperation. 




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  Reply # 2086863 10-Sep-2018 13:28
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All in all, I find everything abour her conduct disgraceful. 27K of a 2.7M runner up prize is a pathetic sanction.

 

It has dimished her in my estimation, though I don't expect it will keep her up at night.

 

 


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  Reply # 2086865 10-Sep-2018 13:30
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The Umpiring at the event didn't show any gender bias did it. Oh thats right the shirt incident.......





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  Reply # 2086868 10-Sep-2018 13:31
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MikeB4:

 

The Umpiring at the event didn't show any gender bias did it. Oh thats right the shirt incident.......

 

 

Different match and I agree, that particular thing was grim and should have been sorted. 

 

There wasn't anything in the umpires decisions against SW that was sexist.

 

 


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What I find baffling is that we are being asked to feel sympathy for a player who pocketed north of $2 million for the game vs the ump who got ~$300....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2086933 10-Sep-2018 14:40
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MikeB4:

 

The Umpiring at the event didn't show any gender bias did it. Oh thats right the shirt incident.......

 

 

Doesn't make the umpire's application of the rules to SW wrong though does it?

 

And the umpire in the SW incident has form for being a stickler for the rules with male and female players. He's been offside with Nadal several times. SW has form for abusing officials. Two patterns being followed as far as I can see.

 

 




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  Reply # 2086976 10-Sep-2018 14:44
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wellygary:

 

What I find baffling is that we are being asked to feel sympathy for a player who pocketed north of $2 million for the game vs the ump who got ~$300....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In my view it's irrelevant how much each person is paid. The player/umpire, is either correct or incorrect, consistent or inconsistent. Acting like an adult, or not.

 

What would restore my respect for SW is for her to take a few days, and say that upon reflection and having had a chance to cool down, she unreservedly apologises for her behaviour and accepts responsibility for it. She has failed as a player and role model and will endevour to handle the situation differently. 

 

Fat chance unfortunately.

 

 


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