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It's kinda funny. It didn't seem long after they did some tests on mythbusters that all of a sudden they were dual loading both J* and ANZ via front/rear doors where they could.

Obviously it's a contention to make sure they get off gate times so now try what they can to improve.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/mythbusters-airlines-are-boarding-their-planes-all-wrong-2014-9?r=US&IR=T

While all these formulas are great the simple fact is none factor in carry on baggage so really can't be applied to the US market which is very different to a country like NZ. If you've ever flown in the US you'll know people literally do take their kitchen sink with them - people take excessive amounts of carry on and on many flights it's not uncommon for bags to end up having to be checked on boarding once they run out of overhead bin space.

Because you have zone based boarding many people often don't end up with their bags directly above them on a plane so the whole boarding (and subsequent leaving the plane) simply becomes a nightmare.

sbiddle:

 

While all these formulas are great the simple fact is none factor in carry on baggage so really can't be applied to the US market which is very different to a country like NZ. If you've ever flown in the US you'll know people literally do take their kitchen sink with them - people take excessive amounts of carry on and on many flights it's not uncommon for bags to end up having to be checked on boarding once they run out of overhead bin space.

 

Because you have zone based boarding many people often don't end up with their bags directly above them on a plane so the whole boarding (and subsequent leaving the plane) simply becomes a nightmare.

 

 

 

 

 

I think there needs to be an crossbow at the back of the plane, and anyone with a carry on bag is shot.  Would problably make for a pretty slow boarding process....for the first couple of planes.  Until they're weeded out.  But it should be good after that.

It seems to me (and it's kindof implied in one of those studies where they all look at -A seats) that you get maximum parallelism if you seat all the people who are furthest from the aisle (i.e. window seats and innermost seats in the centre of the plane) first, then the next column of seats, and finally the aisle seats. If a slow person is loaded first into an aisle seat, then they'll have to get up when their fast window seat person arrives.

But I've never encountered column-wise seating of passengers at any airport.

[Edit: Now I've read it, this is what Mythbusters found too]

Presumably Business Class and Koru Club people are loaded before cattle class because they're all relatively slow and difficult.

sbiddle:

While all these formulas are great the simple fact is none factor in carry on baggage so really can't be applied to the US market which is very different to a country like NZ. If you've ever flown in the US you'll know people literally do take their kitchen sink with them - people take excessive amounts of carry on and on many flights it's not uncommon for bags to end up having to be checked on boarding once they run out of overhead bin space.

Because you have zone based boarding many people often don't end up with their bags directly above them on a plane so the whole boarding (and subsequent leaving the plane) simply becomes a nightmare.

 

 

frankv:

 

It seems to me (and it's kindof implied in one of those studies where they all look at -A seats) that you get maximum parallelism if you seat all the people who are furthest from the aisle (i.e. window seats and innermost seats in the centre of the plane) first, then the next column of seats, and finally the aisle seats. If a slow person is loaded first into an aisle seat, then they'll have to get up when their fast window seat person arrives.

 

But I've never encountered column-wise seating of passengers at any airport.

 

[Edit: Now I've read it, this is what Mythbusters found too]

 

Presumably Business Class and Koru Club people are loaded before cattle class because they're all relatively slow and difficult.

 

 

 

Burn :P Guess they're invited on to get comfy reading their paper and all the perks before the staff have to deal with the riff-raff

But at the same time they're allowed to board 'at their leisure'. And often get that last drink in and are then waited on for the door to close..

frankv:

 

It seems to me (and it's kindof implied in one of those studies where they all look at -A seats) that you get maximum parallelism if you seat all the people who are furthest from the aisle (i.e. window seats and innermost seats in the centre of the plane) first, then the next column of seats, and finally the aisle seats. If a slow person is loaded first into an aisle seat, then they'll have to get up when their fast window seat person arrives.

 

When the boarding call occurs, I always try to get towards the front of the queue if I have a window seat, or the back of the queue if I have an aisle seat.

I don't fly often enough to be an expert traveler, but this is one thing I have learned that seems to work well. 

alasta:

When the boarding call occurs, I always try to get towards the front of the queue if I have a window seat, or the back of the queue if I have an aisle seat.

I don't fly often enough to be an expert traveler, but this is one thing I have learned that seems to work well. 

I hope science proves that letting people murder those wenkers that stand right next to the luggage carousel waiting for their bags to come off, so much so that normal people standing back can't even see the bags anymore, is good for everyone else.

Because I'd be the first to murder them.

muppet:

 

I hope science proves that letting people murder those wenkers that stand right next to the luggage carousel waiting for their bags to come off, so much so that normal people standing back can't even see the bags anymore, is good for everyone else.

 

Because I'd be the first to murder them.

 

With you on that one.

Unless theres a decent gap, I wait back and dont bother even trying until the masses have cleared.

muppet:

 

I hope science proves that letting people murder those wenkers that stand right next to the luggage carousel waiting for their bags to come off, so much so that normal people standing back can't even see the bags anymore, is good for everyone else.

 

Because I'd be the first to murder them.

 

As a side note to this. Try getting a bag(s) off one of those godless machines sitting in a wheelchair. Its *&^% dangerous. Adding in playing dodgems with carousel zombies just piles on the pain.

MikeB4:

 

As a side note to this. Try getting a bag(s) off one of those godless machines sitting in a wheelchair. Its *&^% dangerous. Adding in playing dodgems with carousel zombies just piles on the pain.

 

I'm thinking that wheelchair-bound people are in a position to do the rest of us a favour here. Go to the end of the carousel where the bags come out and line up parallel to the carousel. Grab a bag and hold on, mowing down the stand-near-the-carousel zombie phone readers. Shout "Yee-hah" occasionally.

I've often wondered how they'd get on with no overhead baggage, just want you can put between your legs. Either that, or have a laptop sized bag slot with your seat number on it.