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  #3406753 23-Aug-2025 12:12
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Don’t Pay This AI Family To Write You a Song

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  #3406807 23-Aug-2025 16:38
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Elon Musk's xAI has made hundreds of thousands of Grok chatbot conversations searchable on a variety of search engines, including Google, Bing, and DuckDuckGo, without warning its users their chats were subject to publication.

More than 370,000 user conversations are now readable online, and that the topics include discussions on drug production, user passwords, and even an instance where Grok provided "a detailed plan for the assassination of Elon Musk."

Elon Musk’s xAI Published Hundreds Of Thousands Of Grok Chatbot Conversations: Forbes

Elon Musk’s AI firm, xAI, has published the chat transcripts of hundreds of thousands of conversations between its chatbot Grok and the bot’s users — in many cases, without those users’ knowledge or permission.

Anytime a Grok user clicks the “share” button on one of their chats with the bot, a unique URL is created, allowing them to share the conversation via email, text message or other means.

Unbeknownst to users, though, that unique URL is also made available to search engines, like Google, Bing and DuckDuckGo, making them searchable to anyone on the web. In other words, on Musk’s Grok, hitting the share button means that a conversation will be published on Grok’s website, without warning or a disclaimer to the user.

Today, a Google search for Grok chats shows that the search engine has indexed what Google estimates is more than 370,000 user conversations with the bot. The shared pages revealed conversations between Grok users and the LLM that range from simple business tasks like writing tweets to generating images of a fictional terrorist attack in Kashmir and attempting to hack into a crypto wallet. Forbes reviewed conversations where users asked intimate questions about medicine and psychology; some even revealed the name, personal details and at least one password shared with the bot by a Grok user. Image files, spreadsheets and some text documents uploaded by users could also be accessed via the Grok shared page.
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  #3406818 23-Aug-2025 16:55
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First rule of robotics: never ask a robot about itself.

Second rule of robotics: never use "ftw", "For The Win", unless you're a 13 year old in a 1990's internet forum, IRC chatroom, or gaming community.




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#3406820 23-Aug-2025 16:57
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kingdragonfly: Elon Musk's xAI has made hundreds of thousands of Grok chatbot conversations searchable on a variety of search engines, including Google, Bing, and DuckDuckGo, without warning its users their chats were subject to publication.

Facebook did the same a few months ago. Finally - Facebook has some competition!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0573lj172jo

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  #3408917 31-Aug-2025 08:05
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From AI Girlfriends to Grok Hitler, TDS Takes On AI

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  #3414680 14-Sep-2025 01:43
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  • Qui nihil scit, omnia credere debet. - He who knows nothing must believe everything.
  • Firewalls do NOT stop dragons! Really!
  • I avoid Big Tech. They try hard to dictate technology and „culture“ across borders.
  • In effect we have everything to hide from someone, and no idea who „someone“ is.

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  #3416955 21-Sep-2025 13:24
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"DeepMind’s Demis Hassabis says calling AI PhD Intelligences is ‘Nonsense’"

https://analyticsindiamag.com/ai-news-updates/deepminds-demis-hassabis-says-calling-ai-phd-intelligences-is-nonsense/

Anyone using AI for work on a daily basis will agree. Long conversations are particularly prone to cumulative error.

There are many videos on YouTube with people claiming insane discoveries or insights and creating their own rabbit holes like that. One particularly disturbing one I saw was some guy claiming he wasn't going to be around long because 'they' were after him because AI had told him the names of all the people behind the [great replacement conspiracy of some kind].


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  #3417401 22-Sep-2025 14:09
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The Sunday Morning show on Radio NZ National always has a quiz question for listeners. The one from last Sunday was "Who is the last NZ prime minister whose surname doesn't contain any of the letters from 'New Zealand'"? The answer was Norman Kirk.

 

For fun I thought I'd ask Google's Gemini the same question. It's answer was Robert Muldoon. I pointed out that "Muldoon" contained an "N" and "N" was in "New Zealand". Gemini agreed with me and suggested that the answer was William Fox, who served on four occasions between 1856 and 1873. I asked if Gemini had considered Norman Kirk, to which it replied it had but that Kirk was PM between 1972 to 1974, which was before William Fox's final term in 1873. Finally I asked if the years 1972 through 1974 were before 1873, and Gemini just gave up and threw in the towel.

 

Here's the transcript:

 


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  #3417423 22-Sep-2025 15:26
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At work last week I fed some figures into AI and asked it to write some commentary. It produced something that looked really good, but on closer examination it was full of factual errors. When I pointed out the errors it came back with responses along the lines of "whoops, you're right, sorry".

 

If you have to check every detail of the material that it produces, then what's the point? 


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  #3417429 22-Sep-2025 15:51
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The point is that you won't notice the issues, and that you'll give the "AI" companies money.


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  #3417447 22-Sep-2025 16:27
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For some reason, AI struggles with any question relating to letters.

Ironically ChatGPT told me this:

"1. We’re built for meaning, not symbol-level precision

Language models are trained to predict words and patterns of words, not to count individual characters.

When you ask “how many R’s in strawberry”, the model’s “instinct” is to think semantically (what strawberry means, what words usually appear around it) instead of literally iterating over letters.

2. No internal "scratchpad" for counting

Humans naturally scan the letters and count.

Models don’t “look” at the word the way we do — instead, they use statistical associations. For example, they might have seen text where someone says “two R’s in strawberry”, but not processed it via deliberate counting.

Without explicit symbolic reasoning, it’s easy to guess wrong.

3. Tokenization makes it messier

Words are broken down into “tokens” before processing.

“strawberry” might be a single token, so the model doesn’t see its individual letters unless it learned them indirectly.

If the tokenizer splits it differently (e.g., “straw” + “berry”), the model may “see” chunks rather than exact letters — making counting harder.

4. Bias toward common answers

Models rely on patterns from training data.

If people often ask “how many R’s in strawberry?” and someone answered incorrectly, that wrong pattern may propagate.

This explains why AI sometimes confidently gives the wrong count.

5. Better with explicit reasoning steps

If prompted to “spell the word out and then count”, AI does much better — because it’s forced into a step-by-step symbolic process rather than relying on fuzzy memory."

 
 
 

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  #3417473 22-Sep-2025 17:41
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Yeh... NEWZALD, sounds like a city that existed once on planet crypton? 
LLM does not 'know' numbers, order of numbers, or math much beyond associations that might repetitively come up in its training.

 

It can repeat like a parrot all the 'theory' of numbers, etc.
That is language, its an LLM afterall, so its good at that. Simulating Intelligence.

 

LLM is probably better placed to translate math questions to a math tool (calculator/python/etc) if its one of the fancier level ones.

 

Thus in MurrayM example, amongst the other things, no concept that 1972 to 1974 does NOT come before 1873. 

 

Considering the number of 'high profile' 'long running' news stories now associate a certain type of mushroom with cooking a beef wellington

 

Once training catches up.
It would be wise to be a bit careful using LLMs for important stuff, like cooking a beef wellington ?. :-0 


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  #3417532 22-Sep-2025 20:44
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alasta:

 

At work last week I fed some figures into AI and asked it to write some commentary. It produced something that looked really good, but on closer examination it was full of factual errors. When I pointed out the errors it came back with responses along the lines of "whoops, you're right, sorry".

 

If you have to check every detail of the material that it produces, then what's the point? 

 

 

 

 

Totally agree.  Almost every time I think AI can help with something at work it spits out something which is in one sense amazing but ultimately flawed in some way that is very hard to correct.  After correcting and fine tuning it several times it loses the original thread or just keeps apologizing and then spitting out the same crap.

 

It is certainly not trustworthy for anything that matters. 


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  #3417541 22-Sep-2025 21:01
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For fun I thought I'd ask Google's Gemini the same question.

Gemini Pro is better to some degree. If you're lucky the top corner might provide an option to switch to pro for some of the day.

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  #3419048 26-Sep-2025 18:19
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Youtube A.I. used to make Youtube videos, posted on Youtube. Pity there wasn't a human moderator to catch, until the press asked about it.

Included A.I. photo realistic women wearing Ukrainian flagged tshirts begging for their lives before being shot in the chest or head.

AI-Generated YouTube Channel Uploaded Nothing But Videos of Women Being Shot: 404 Media

YouTube removed a channel that was dedicated to posting AI-generated videos of women being shot in the head following 404 Media’s request for comment. The videos were clearly generated with Google’s new AI video generator tool, Veo, according to a watermark included in the bottom right corner of the videos.

The channel, named Woman Shot A.I, started on June 20, 2025. It posted 27 videos, had over 1,000 subscribers, and had more than 175,000 views, according to the channel’s publicly available data.
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