Where is the Philips LED/LCD TVs in New Zealand?

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#116243 23-Apr-2013 08:52

Have not had any luck finding Philip flatscreens in New Zealand and can't understand why.

The flatscreens keep winning tests here in Norway and have some of the best image quality out there, but they seem not to be sold by anyone in NZ. Or am I wrong? Please prove me wrong and enlighten me! :)

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#804084 23-Apr-2013 09:02

They pulled the plug on NZ a few years ago. Quality issues, poor sales and a lack of any H.264 hardware at the time meant sales were very poor.

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#804089 23-Apr-2013 09:09

They are around.

I think AV World in Mt Eden sells them.

I've got a few brand new ones in boxes if you want them.

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#804094 23-Apr-2013 09:17

They left the consumer TV market in the past 12 months.

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#804108 23-Apr-2013 09:28

It was a corporate decision by Head office at the end of 2008.

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/philips-pulls-out-australasia-tv-markets-drops-all-blacks-sponsorship-35324

"the pull-out follows a review pushed by Philips CEO Gerard Kleisterlee, who is putting profitability ahead of market share as he looks to rationalise the company’s global TV business.

New Zealand was judged too small a market to play in under the new regime. So was Australia."

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#804109 23-Apr-2013 09:31

So we have TVs in Norway with built in recievers for digital TV (Mpeg 4) in a market of about the same as NZ. But Australia (22 million) and NZ (about the same as Norway) are too small markets? Something is upside down in Kiwi-land.. ;)

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#804113 23-Apr-2013 09:39

I don't think it is the MPEG-4 thing, it is the stepping of the frequencies we use (even different to Australia) and the MHEG/EIT EPG.

Could be wrong, but that's what I have heard. Plus, it's not like we don't already have a lot of TV brands for such a small population.

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#804125 23-Apr-2013 10:03

New Zealand isn't exactly a profitable place to sell TV's... just ask the companies struggling to make money here. And besides, looking at 100+ different units in typical retail stores, do we really need other TV's in this country? Philips bring one or two interesting things to the game (bye-bye black bars on some of their models), but apart from that, meh. They didn't have a great reputation when they were here, not for reliability anyway!

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#804139 23-Apr-2013 10:22

Something tells me they must have been selling other models than they do here. When that is said, most brands have their cheap-o panels and their more expensive ones. You usually get what you pay for.

But looks like I will have to look at other brands for LED/LCD or get one of the much hyped Panasonic Plasmas :)

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#804313 23-Apr-2013 13:58

IMO it obviously made sense for Phillips to withdraw from the Australasian market as their production facilities are too far from the market and couldn't compete with the Asian manufacturers effectivel on our doorstep.
They may possibly have been slightly better quality-wise but if you look around retail stores now you will find very little in the way European produced products on the shelves and those that are available are far more expensive than the same ones produced in Asia. Must have cost them heaps in after-sales support too.
Long gone are the days when TVs HAD to be assembled in NZ to bolster employment.

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#804319 23-Apr-2013 14:14

While Philips make some pretty good stuff, their TV's didn't seem to be included. We have 2 CRT match lines which died of the same problem, stopped accepting input from remote or buttons on the TV. I was lead to believe from a few retailers their LCD's / plasmas had a higher return rate than other brands also.

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#804404 23-Apr-2013 16:41

I'm not surprised that they're gone; there's sweet F.A. margin to be made on TVs here with so much cut throat competition. This is good for the end consumer, but no so good for the retailers and manufacturers.

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#804409 23-Apr-2013 16:49

BTW, the last CRT I purchased was a 32" Philips back in 2003. Paid about $1800 for it I think.

It lasted just over 8 years before the picture started going a sickly green/yellow colour. It was pretty much unusable then so I got my first LCD (in 2012), a Samsung 40" full hi-def for under $700.

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#804488 23-Apr-2013 19:23

DarthKermit: I'm not surprised that they're gone; there's sweet F.A. margin to be made on TVs here with so much cut throat competition. This is good for the end consumer, but no so good for the retailers and manufacturers.

Well actually, it's bad for everyone now that the ranges are being cut back.
Remember when you could buy a high spec'd 32" TV? Not anymore...
What about 37" LED's, 42" or 46" plasmas from the big players? All but gone.
Sure ultra HD is a nice cherry to help us forget about the dwindling choice, but frankly, the poor margins for retailers don't guarantee a long term win for consumers.
When it comes to low price / quality and choice - you can't have your cake and eat it too.

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#804494 23-Apr-2013 19:34

lxsw20: While Philips make some pretty good stuff, their TV's didn't seem to be included. We have 2 CRT match lines which died of the same problem, stopped accepting input from remote or buttons on the TV. I was lead to believe from a few retailers their LCD's / plasmas had a higher return rate than other brands also.

The quality of their LCD and Plasma panels around 2006/2007 before they pulled out of the market was terrible, as was the reliability of their products. They pulled out of the market due to poor sales - because the quality of their products was so bad even the goodwill behind the Philips brand wasn't enough to pull them through.

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#804495 23-Apr-2013 19:36

jarledb: So we have TVs in Norway with built in recievers for digital TV (Mpeg 4) in a market of about the same as NZ. But Australia (22 million) and NZ (about the same as Norway) are too small markets? Something is upside down in Kiwi-land.. ;)

They always came last in the NZ Consumer's reliability surveys..

They not only pulled out of the AU and NZ markets but also North America.

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