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#59792 12-Apr-2010 18:12
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Hey everyone

I'm going to the 2010 Panasonic TV launch tomorrow and seeing as the 2009 range was a very popular subject on these forums is there anything you would like me to ask the Panasonic people or do with the tvs?
Hopefully I'll be allowed the use of a remote but it will probably just be lots of marketing and a quick glimpse at the tvs.




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  #317466 12-Apr-2010 19:02
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Guess that this is trade only??




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  #317502 12-Apr-2010 20:25
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Release date for 3D-TV and RRP if it can be mentioned

 
 
 
 


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  #317665 13-Apr-2010 10:15
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Ask which models we will and won't be getting and in what sizes (S20, G20, G25, VT20, VT25 etc).

If they do a side by side comparison with last years models, ask to see the hour count on the old model. If they aren't happy to oblige, then take any comparison with bucket of salt.

If they take you up on the offer, please take note of the code.

Cheers.



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  #317888 13-Apr-2010 16:00
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Yeah sorry trade only lol. I doubt you'll have to wait too long to get a look yourself (fingers crossed)
Cool i'll do my best, what do you mean by take note of the code dunnersfella? do you mean the code for panel hours?




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  #317910 13-Apr-2010 16:41
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samwooff:
Cool i'll do my best, what do you mean by take note of the code dunnersfella? do you mean the code for panel hours?


Yes I believe that the code isn't a straight numerical value e.g. '1280' hours. Its hex or some other value that needs converting.

Whats a dunnersfella?

On a side-note, the G10 has been removed from the nz panasonic site.

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  #318013 13-Apr-2010 20:06
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I do doubt you'll see old and new side by side... and how did I get mentioned?

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  #318052 13-Apr-2010 21:17
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fahrenheit:
samwooff:
Cool i'll do my best, what do you mean by take note of the code dunnersfella? do you mean the code for panel hours?


On a side-note, the G10 has been removed from the nz panasonic site.


They have been out of stock for some months now.




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  #318351 14-Apr-2010 13:36
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Dunnersfella: I do doubt you'll see old and new side by side... and how did I get mentioned?

Oops sorry guys I was reading more than one thread when I was making that reply haha, I miss being able to scroll through the thread while replying.

Aaaaanyway back to the panasonic launch. I tried my best to get a straight 09/10 comparison but the closest I got was the 09 50V10 next to a 50v20(the new g10), both were in dynamic mode and the v10 had well over 1000 hours apparently as it was there demo from last year and the v20 had around 250, both figures were estimates from a rep. I managed to get hold of a remote but got told to cease and desist halfway through calibrating the v10 by an angry rep who had clearly never even seen the picture settings menu in his life.
What I noticed was that the blacks were a little bit darker but take this with aforementioned bucket of salt.
It also apparently uses about 25% less power from two power meters hooked up to each tv.

I got to check out a few 3D demos as well which will only be on one model, the 3d effect was pretty cool though a little fake still. There are still too many downsides in my opinion. The main ones are source problems, a very dimmed picture, some judder and tearing and some very dorky looking glasses.

I got a brochure with all the models if you want to know any extra details. The basic rundown of the plasmas is the same 4 tier approach of last year except that it now goes X20(42,50) U20(42,46,50) V20(42,46,50,54) and the 3D model VT20(50,54,65) Sorry no pricing info, the first models should be in stores within 2 weeks with the rest to gradually come over the next 2 months.

Other things of note, the VT20 is meant to have a 5,000,000:1 native and dynamic contrast ratio which I find harder to believe than normal contrast ratios which I have no respect for already. They have a new LCD lineup too with the now default LED edgelit model. The V and VT both have usb recording which I thought was pretty cool.




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  #318368 14-Apr-2010 14:05
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samwooff:
Dunnersfella: I do doubt you'll see old and new side by side... and how did I get mentioned?

Oops sorry guys I was reading more than one thread when I was making that reply haha, I miss being able to scroll through the thread while replying.

Aaaaanyway back to the panasonic launch. I tried my best to get a straight 09/10 comparison but the closest I got was the 09 50V10 next to a 50v20(the new g10), both were in dynamic mode and the v10 had well over 1000 hours apparently as it was there demo from last year and the v20 had around 250, both figures were estimates from a rep. I managed to get hold of a remote but got told to cease and desist halfway through calibrating the v10 by an angry rep who had clearly never even seen the picture settings menu in his life.
What I noticed was that the blacks were a little bit darker but take this with aforementioned bucket of salt.
It also apparently uses about 25% less power from two power meters hooked up to each tv.

I got to check out a few 3D demos as well which will only be on one model, the 3d effect was pretty cool though a little fake still. There are still too many downsides in my opinion. The main ones are source problems, a very dimmed picture, some judder and tearing and some very dorky looking glasses.

I got a brochure with all the models if you want to know any extra details. The basic rundown of the plasmas is the same 4 tier approach of last year except that it now goes X20(42,50) U20(42,46,50) V20(42,46,50,54) and the 3D model VT20(50,54,65) Sorry no pricing info, the first models should be in stores within 2 weeks with the rest to gradually come over the next 2 months.

Other things of note, the VT20 is meant to have a 5,000,000:1 native and dynamic contrast ratio which I find harder to believe than normal contrast ratios which I have no respect for already. They have a new LCD lineup too with the now default LED edgelit model. The V and VT both have usb recording which I thought was pretty cool.


Thanks for that.

Dynamic is an abomination and shouldn't be used to promote these sets (as I'm sure you already know from your G10), but this 'floating black' issue that seems to have infiltrated the 2010 models wouldn't be seen in Dynamic mode, so I wonder if Panasonic are playing it smart...

So we aren't getting the brown coloured model? (VT25). I'll have to take a closer look at what we are missing (other than brown chassis which they can keep for all I care).

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  #318504 14-Apr-2010 19:53
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What can you tell us about the USB recording?
What can they record exactly? And does the range come with SD Card slots still?



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  #318566 14-Apr-2010 22:36
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The impression I got from a few of the guys I spoke to was they were either not allowed to use or had no knowledge of the picture settings menu and what it does.

Nope the whole lineup comes in a very tasteful black, they look almost identical to last years. The VT25 doesn't appear to have any extra features over the models we get.

Unfortunately not a huge amount of concrete data but what it does say is that "you can record your favourite TV series, films and other content"
Anything you record can only be played on THAT tv even excluding other examples of that model. It supports HDDs between 160Gb and 2Tb.
You can't record analogue tv and recording will depend on broadcaster and service provider so I'm assuming free to air only channels or something like that.
All models still have SD card slots and some have USB and DLNA.




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  #318567 14-Apr-2010 22:39
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samwooff:
Nope the whole lineup comes in a very tasteful black, they look almost identical to last years. The VT25 doesn't appear to have any extra features over the models we get.


Thats good, I was worried when I saw the silver/grey US models.

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#322281 24-Apr-2010 01:31
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When will the 2010 range hit the stores and can you tell me which LCDs we will get? I'm looking at getting a 40-42 inch.
Thanks

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  #322287 24-Apr-2010 06:14
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  #322337 24-Apr-2010 11:43
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Any equivalent to the THX certified G20 models they have in the UK.

Mate of mine just got a  TX-P42G20B over there that has both Freeview HD and Freesat HD tuners and I'd love to have an equivalent unit over here.




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