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#321578 31-Aug-2025 09:08
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I have recently discovered that the laptop I have does NOT support TPM 2.0.  I have been running Windows 11 on it on Windows Insider Preview releases.  Recently I discovered my device was downloading around 10 gigs of data per day, through the System task (ie could have been any part of Windows doing this).  I spent some days trying to find possible causes but in the end decided to try a Windows Refresh install.  This failed because there was no support for TPM 2.0 in the latest known BIOS - not surprising given that the laptop is about 5 years old and the BIOS release was in early 2019.

 

When I bought my current laptop it came with Windows 10 but 11 was not far away.  I thought it met minimum requirements for 11 but I see it is not listed by Acer as 11-compatible.  I have the Aspire 5 A515-51-539B - CPU is an Intel Core i5 8250U, 8 gigs of memory and a 256 gig SSD.  This covers my needs well - I am not a gamer but occasionally use Excel spreadsheets.  This CPU is listed as TPM 2.0 capable but the BIOS does not support it.

So what I am looking for is a similar-spec laptop but with a current BIOS and current-generation Intel I5 or equivalent AMD processor.  The laptop is used primarily as a desktop but I take it with me on my travels.

Any recommendations or suggestions welcomed.  I have ruled out OLED displays as not worth the extra cost.





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  #3408922 31-Aug-2025 09:30
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Look at HP Probooks. Modern, and trend to run forever. You'll pay a little more than the usual mass stuff but it pays for itself. Avoid the consumer HP stuff, they tend to use cheaper/slower components and while on paper they look good for the $$, they're actually not.

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NBKHNB45010A/HP-ProBook-450-G10-Business-Laptop-156-FHD-Intel-C

 

Even ex-lease HP Probook probably be fine.

 

 

 





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  #3408925 31-Aug-2025 09:44
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I would suggest using the tpm bypass to re-install. You already have win11 running so no big deal to re-install if you were willing to do that in the first place. Thank MS and manufacturers for the planned obsolescence too :)

 

99% of home users have no need for tpm, just use the bypass while MS isn’t enforcing it.


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  #3408983 31-Aug-2025 11:41
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What is your budget? Inexpensive means different things to different people. 




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  #3408990 31-Aug-2025 12:28
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+1 for HP Probook. 





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  #3408994 31-Aug-2025 12:55
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gehenna:

 

What is your budget? Inexpensive means different things to different people.

 

I was hoping for around $1000.  Comments so far seem to indicate that quality costs more, but bear in mind I my current (8th gen i5) CPU is adequate.





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  #3408997 31-Aug-2025 13:53
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There are a couple of users on here who sell ex-lease laptops. Beefholio and Zal I think? We got an ex lease HP Elitebook laptop from Beefholio . It's been great. You can get a good windows 11 machine from approx $400+


 
 
 
 

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  #3409004 31-Aug-2025 14:14
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Thanks for the responses: plenty to disgest here.

 

I dont normally look at 'remanufactured' tec h because it is generally ex-lease and therefore not current but this one caught my eye because of the price point and OLED panel: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NBKASU3402016R/ASUS-Factory-Refurbished-Zenbook-14-OLED-UM3402ZA.  Is this a good buy?





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  #3409005 31-Aug-2025 14:21
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OldGeek:

 

I dont normally look at 'remanufactured' tec h because it is generally ex-lease and therefore not current but this one caught my eye because of the price point and OLED panel:

 

 

I would not be getting a used oled, probably find that it has some business software they used all the time burned into it.





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  #3409006 31-Aug-2025 15:08
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OldGeek:

 

Thanks for the responses: plenty to disgest here.

 

I dont normally look at 'remanufactured' tec h because it is generally ex-lease and therefore not current but this one caught my eye because of the price point and OLED panel: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NBKASU3402016R/ASUS-Factory-Refurbished-Zenbook-14-OLED-UM3402ZA.  Is this a good buy?

 

 

That is a lovely device. My wife has the updated version of it. It's light and pretty fast, and the screen is superb. Won't likely last as long as something like a probook, but it has more bells and whistles

 

I was recently disappointed however, the that warranty has an expected turn around time of between 5-15 working days (for new devices). Ended up dead in the middle of that, which is too long for her, and we are now looking for something that wouldn't be down for as long during a failure. 

 

 


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  #3409007 31-Aug-2025 15:08
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richms:

 

I would not be getting a used oled, probably find that it has some business software they used all the time burned into it.

 

 

A quick inspection would alleviate that concern. 


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  #3409022 31-Aug-2025 16:36
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OldGeek:

 

I was hoping for around $1000.  Comments so far seem to indicate that quality costs more, but bear in mind I my current (8th gen i5) CPU is adequate.

 

 

Can I recommend you have a look at the manufacturers support section for firmware updates for your laptop?  Some series of computers that age could be firmware-updated from TPM1 to TPM2.  Once fully updated, look through the BIOS/UEFI settings to see if TPM2 can be enabled at the BIOS level.





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  #3409027 31-Aug-2025 17:03
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Make sure you get a laptop with a IPS display... 

 

 





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  #3409041 31-Aug-2025 19:11
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BlargHonk:

 

There are a couple of users on here who sell ex-lease laptops. Beefholio and Zal I think? We got an ex lease HP Elitebook laptop from Beefholio . It's been great. You can get a good windows 11 machine from approx $400+

 

 

PM Beefholio. I was happy with my HP Elitebook purchase from Beefholio.


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  #3409054 31-Aug-2025 21:50
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I have heard speculation that end of windows 10 support in two months is causing a little bit of a surge in computer demand, meaning less deals than one would expect given the economic conditions.

With a $1000 budget I would be picking between a nicer used laptop:

For example

 

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/computers/laptops/laptops/hp/listing/5500475571 

 

 

 

Or you get a lower spec new laptop. Kinda find of Lenovo when the budget is tight.

Can get a Thinkpad E14 Gen 7 (AMD) for $1062.70 (free shipping). AMD Ryzen 3 210, Win 11 Home, 8gb ram, 256 GB SSD. + $81 to upgrade to 16GB of ram, which I would recommend.

If you have access to a .ac.nz email address, lenovo sometimes has better student pricing.

Their main website has a, "Unlock 5% off" banner (by adding an email to their list).

 

 

 


The CPU's in both the above laptops will outperform your current on by about double (They have similar multi-thread ratings, but the AMD has an edge in single thread).

The used one has more ram and a dedicated GPU, and is a high end model with metallic casing etc. And of course a chunk cheaper.

The Lenovo is their business focused Thinkpad line, and is a mix of materials (Aluminium (top), PC-ABS (bottom)). Surprised it has more Aluminium on it than my $4000+ Thinkpad P16v. It gets 1 year onsite support / warranty as standard ($140 to upgrade to 3 years onsite). Onsite support is great to have. Having a brand new battery, and a 4nm processor, I would expect it to have better battery life too.


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  #3409069 1-Sep-2025 08:40
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According to Microsoft's own documentation, your CPU is supported for Windows 11. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors

 

 





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