10/10 Routing

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# 181211 6-Oct-2015 18:40

I'm on Spark Fibre, just thought id post this here cause last time i called them about routing issues they told me they had no idea what to do or who to escalate to.....

Embarrassing tbh Can anyone explain why I'm going to AU and japan then ping ponging between japan and hk 3 times to finally get to USW then finally across to the Atlantic to get to the EU? Seems I lose out on ~200ms before I even get to USW haha Historically, I'm sure I've just gone straight from NZ to USW or maybe to hawaii then USW, not taking massive detours north east like this then ping ponging around jp/hk. It's been like this for weeks...

Have Southern Cross Cables been under maintenance or damaged for a month or so now?

Anyone else having horrendous routing issues like this? I'm starting to lose it tbh this is ridiculous fam edit: no idea how this formatting works - new lines dont seem to be doing anything

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# 1401234 6-Oct-2015 19:10

Yes, that has gone on a overseas OE.

This is what it looks like from a Vodafone UFB connection.


traceroute 94.23.206.222
traceroute to 94.23.206.222 (94.23.206.222), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 192.168.2.254 (192.168.2.254) 8.970 ms 8.964 ms 10.698 ms
 2 118-93-47-254.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (118.93.47.254) 6.926 ms 7.509 ms 8.086 ms
 3 bvi-400.bgnzldv02.akl.vf.net.nz (203.109.180.242) 11.894 ms 11.895 ms 11.894 ms
 4 bvi-188.bgnzldv02.akl.vf.net.nz (203.109.180.241) 11.892 ms 11.889 ms 12.543 ms
 5 any2ix.coresite.com (206.72.210.227) 137.682 ms 137.683 ms 137.639 ms
 6 any2ix.coresite.com (206.72.210.214) 137.030 ms 130.733 ms 129.923 ms
 7 nwk-5-a9.nj.us (198.27.73.165) 190.858 ms 189.558 ms 190.754 ms
 8 ldn-5-a9.uk.eu (198.27.73.10) 260.975 ms ldn-5-a9.uk.eu (198.27.73.29) 263.581 ms 264.599 ms
 9 rbx-g2-a9.fr.eu (91.121.128.88) 265.405 ms 268.166 ms 265.365 ms
10 vss-2-6k.routers.ovh.net (91.121.131.89) 268.156 ms vss-2b-6k.routers.ovh.net (94.23.122.94) 263.745 ms vss-2-6k.routers.ovh.net (91.121.131.89) 265.123 ms
11 ns323060.ip-94-23-206.eu (94.23.206.222) 262.781 ms 262.804 ms 264.895 ms

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# 1401243 6-Oct-2015 19:27

That's strange routing! Unlikely to be the cause in this case, but the (seemingly annual) cut to SeaMeWe 3 has caused a lot of issues with the interwebs around this part of the world.

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# 1401253 6-Oct-2015 19:52

I beat you!
I have 25 hops to the same IP address. :)
On UberGroup Northpower Fibre.

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# 1401254 6-Oct-2015 19:53

and from a orcon VDSL

1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms Orcon.Home [192.168.0.254]
2     5 ms     6 ms    32 ms 60.234.8.54
3     6 ms     7 ms     6 ms op.cpcak-ntch-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.5.18]
4     9 ms    22 ms     8 ms op.nct-cre1.orcon.net.nz [101.98.5.19]
5     7 ms     6 ms     7 ms ae1-0.cre2.nct.odyssey.net.nz [121.99.12.3]
6     6 ms     6 ms    11 ms 121.99.1.35
7     7 ms     6 ms     6 ms as4610.cust.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz [175.45.102.66]
8     9 ms     7 ms     7 ms bundle-100.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz [175.45.102.65]
9   131 ms   149 ms   131 ms bundle-10.cor01.akl05.akl.VOCUS.net.nz [114.31.202.100]
10   131 ms   132 ms   132 ms bundle-200.cor02.lax01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.202.47]
11   153 ms   132 ms   131 ms bundle-100.cor01.lax01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.199.48]
12   132 ms   131 ms   131 ms bundle-101.bdr01.lax01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.199.61]
13   131 ms   295 ms   296 ms any2ix.coresite.com [206.72.210.214]
14   191 ms   190 ms   191 ms nwk-5-a9.nj.us [198.27.73.193]
15   263 ms   262 ms   262 ms ldn-5-a9.uk.eu [178.32.135.165]
16   262 ms   262 ms   285 ms rbx-g2-a9.fr.eu [91.121.128.88]
17   307 ms   261 ms   268 ms vss-2b-6k.routers.ovh.net [94.23.122.94]
18   262 ms   261 ms   276 ms ns323060.ip-94-23-206.eu [94.23.206.222]

Trace complete.

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# 1401262 6-Oct-2015 20:02

Assuming your target is 94.23.206.222 (which appears to be french), I just did a trace to that from one of our boxes hosted in Ireland and it appeared to bounce to the UK then to US east coast then back to the UK then to france... 19hops but only 15ms roundtrip.

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# 1401263 6-Oct-2015 20:04

I get 25 hops on Bigpipe UFB as well. Fun trip it goes on...

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# 1401266 6-Oct-2015 20:07

Scenic route for me on Snap VDSL too:

Tracing route to ns323060.ip-94-23-206.eu [94.23.206.222]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms Router [192.168.2.1]
2    23 ms    25 ms    21 ms 57.35.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.35.57]
3    32 ms    27 ms    27 ms 32.27.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.32]
4    31 ms    16 ms    26 ms 33.27.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.33]
5    26 ms    30 ms    33 ms ae5-2.akbr7.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.213]
6    49 ms    54 ms    49 ms xe0-0-1.sgbr3.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.110]
7    40 ms    52 ms    50 ms ae2-10.sgbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.246]
8    55 ms    49 ms    49 ms ae-3.a04.sydnau03.au.ra.gin.ntt.net [103.13.80.125]
9    51 ms    52 ms    50 ms ae-3.r05.sydnau01.au.bb.gin.ntt.net [202.68.64.124]
10   164 ms   171 ms   164 ms ae-8.r20.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.76]
11   167 ms   161 ms   155 ms ae-3.r30.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.7.70]
12   164 ms   216 ms   165 ms ae-23.r24.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.6.50]
13   211 ms   208 ms   198 ms ae-3.r23.tkokhk01.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.89]
14   310 ms   312 ms   212 ms ae-8.r00.tkokhk01.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.83]
15     *      313 ms   309 ms ix-24-0.tcore1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net [180.87.112.153]
16     *      353 ms     *     if-3-2.tcore1.TV2-Tokyo.as6453.net [180.87.112.6]
17   345 ms     *      352 ms if-2-2.tcore1.PDI-Palo-Alto.as6453.net [66.198.127.1]
18   347 ms   348 ms   345 ms if-2-2.tcore1.PDI-Palo-Alto.as6453.net [66.198.127.1]
19   389 ms   345 ms   363 ms if-1-2.tcore1.NYY-New-York.as6453.net [66.198.127.6]
20   390 ms   395 ms   407 ms nwk-5-a9.nj.us [192.99.146.48]
21   454 ms   381 ms   454 ms ldn-5-a9.uk.eu [178.32.135.165]
22   452 ms   452 ms   436 ms rbx-g2-a9.fr.eu [91.121.128.88]
23   444 ms   437 ms   449 ms vss-2-6k.routers.ovh.net [91.121.131.89]
24   633 ms   438 ms   445 ms vss-2-6k.routers.ovh.net [91.121.131.89]
25   433 ms   445 ms   441 ms ns323060.ip-94-23-206.eu [94.23.206.222]

Trace complete.

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# 1401269 6-Oct-2015 20:13

Spark VDSL

C:\Users\Home>tracert 94.23.206.222

Tracing route to ns323060.ip-94-23-206.eu [94.23.206.222]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms     5 ms     2 ms  NF8AC.Home [192.168.1.1]
  2     6 ms     9 ms     9 ms  125-239-205-1.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [125.239.205.
1]
  3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  4     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  ae8-10.akbr6.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.116.5
]
  5     7 ms     6 ms     6 ms  ae5-2.akbr7.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.21
3]
  6    29 ms    31 ms    29 ms  xe0-0-4.sgbr3.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.127.
94]
  7    30 ms    30 ms    30 ms  ae2-10.sgbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.2
46]
  8    29 ms    30 ms    29 ms  ae-3.a04.sydnau03.au.ra.gin.ntt.net [103.13.80.1
25]
  9    30 ms    31 ms    31 ms  ae-3.r05.sydnau01.au.bb.gin.ntt.net [202.68.64.1
24]
 10   142 ms   143 ms   142 ms  ae-8.r20.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.7
6]
 11   142 ms   142 ms   142 ms  ae-3.r30.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.7.7
0]
 12   143 ms   186 ms   144 ms  ae-23.r24.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.6.
50]
 13   187 ms   188 ms   191 ms  ae-3.r23.tkokhk01.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.8
9]
 14   236 ms   194 ms   194 ms  ae-8.r00.tkokhk01.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.8
3]
 15   316 ms   242 ms   315 ms  if-3-2.tcore1.TV2-Tokyo.as6453.net [180.87.112.6
]
 16   344 ms   321 ms   343 ms  if-9-2.tcore2.PDI-Palo-Alto.as6453.net [180.87.1
80.17]
 17     *      348 ms   340 ms  if-2-2.tcore1.PDI-Palo-Alto.as6453.net [66.198.1
27.1]
 18   348 ms   341 ms   341 ms  if-1-2.tcore1.NYY-New-York.as6453.net [66.198.12
7.6]
 19   346 ms   312 ms   348 ms  if-1-2.tcore1.NYY-New-York.as6453.net [66.198.12
7.6]
 20   319 ms   341 ms   318 ms  if-3-2.thar1.NJY-Newark.as6453.net [66.198.70.21
]
 21   377 ms   346 ms   377 ms  ldn-5-a9.uk.eu [178.32.135.165]
 22   383 ms   416 ms   416 ms  rbx-g2-a9.fr.eu [91.121.128.88]
 23   422 ms   406 ms   423 ms  rbx-g2-a9.fr.eu [91.121.128.88]
 24   412 ms   384 ms   412 ms  vss-2b-6k.routers.ovh.net [94.23.122.94]
 25   384 ms   384 ms   390 ms  ns323060.ip-94-23-206.eu [94.23.206.222]

Trace complete.

jajaja

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# 1401278 6-Oct-2015 20:21

Well at least it's not just isolated to Spark so that makes me feel a little better - but strange it hasn't been fixed yet. This has been happening for a long time now.

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# 1401288 6-Oct-2015 20:24

its probably one of the upstream providers routing thats the issue

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# 1401310 6-Oct-2015 20:28

It's not just OVH:

Tracing route to online.net [62.210.16.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  Broadcom.Home [192.168.1.1]
  2    19 ms    20 ms    18 ms  100.70.28.1
  3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5    19 ms    18 ms    19 ms  g7-2-8-201.akbr6.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.118.65]
  6    18 ms    18 ms    18 ms  ae5-2.akbr7.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.213]
  7    42 ms    42 ms    42 ms  xe0-0-4.sgbr3.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.127.94]
  8    42 ms    42 ms    42 ms  ae2-10.sgbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.246]
  9    42 ms    42 ms    42 ms  ae-3.a04.sydnau03.au.ra.gin.ntt.net [103.13.80.125]
 10    42 ms    42 ms    42 ms  ae-3.r05.sydnau01.au.bb.gin.ntt.net [202.68.64.124]
 11   157 ms   155 ms   165 ms  ae-8.r20.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.76]
 12   156 ms   156 ms   155 ms  ae-3.r30.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.7.70]
 13   200 ms   155 ms   200 ms  ae-14.r22.tkokhk01.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.134]
 14   207 ms   202 ms   200 ms  ae-7.r00.tkokhk01.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.6.219]
 15   202 ms   279 ms   280 ms  ix-24-0.tcore1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net [180.87.112.153]
 16   280 ms   379 ms   280 ms  ix-24-0.tcore1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net [180.87.112.153]
 17   381 ms   376 ms   380 ms  if-7-2.thar1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net [180.87.112.142]
 18   345 ms   346 ms   377 ms  if-3-2.tcore2.SVW-Singapore.as6453.net [180.87.163.26]
 19   373 ms   348 ms   346 ms  if-10-2.tcore1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net [180.87.15.146]
 20   375 ms   375 ms   376 ms  if-8-1600.tcore1.PYE-Paris.as6453.net [80.231.217.6]
 21   345 ms   376 ms   346 ms  if-2-2.tcore1.PVU-Paris.as6453.net [80.231.154.17]
 22   347 ms   347 ms   348 ms  if-34-2.thar1.VI8-Vitry-Sur-Seine.as6453.net [80.231.153.58]
 23   349 ms   362 ms   350 ms  if-34-2.thar1.VI8-Vitry-Sur-Seine.as6453.net [80.231.153.58]
 24   356 ms   363 ms   357 ms  45x-s44-2-a9k1.dc3.poneytelecom.eu [195.154.1.105]
 25   371 ms   359 ms   371 ms  online.net [62.210.16.2]

Trace complete.

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# 1401314 6-Oct-2015 20:30

Moved to correct subforum.

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# 1401344 6-Oct-2015 21:24

Guess a Global Gateway issue then.. I get some really bad tracert to 162.252.205.157 from Snap too (actually have to extend the maximum hops of tracert..) not to hijack the thread though

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# 1401377 6-Oct-2015 22:16

3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
4   282 ms   184 ms   256 ms 218.101.61.168
5   259 ms   280 ms   313 ms ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net [203.98.50.2]
6   177 ms   194 ms   159 ms ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net [203.98.50.251]
7   298 ms   187 ms   164 ms be10-2.bgnzftc02.akl.vf.net.nz [203.109.130.41]
8   346 ms   286 ms   276 ms any2ix.coresite.com [206.72.210.227]
9   345 ms   315 ms   327 ms any2ix.coresite.com [206.72.210.214]
10   424 ms   477 ms   460 ms nwk-5-a9.nj.us [198.27.73.193]
11   351 ms   451 ms   513 ms ldn-5-a9.uk.eu [178.32.135.231]
12   611 ms   579 ms   592 ms rbx-g2-a9.fr.eu [91.121.128.88]
13   585 ms   497 ms   494 ms vss-2-6k.routers.ovh.net [91.121.131.89]
14   632 ms   576 ms   602 ms ns323060.ip-94-23-206.eu [94.23.206.222]

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# 1401378 6-Oct-2015 22:16

freitasm: Moved to correct subforum.

Where did this get moved to?

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