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#245114 19-Jan-2019 10:17
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I was wondering how often does Spark change your IP? Also if you purchase a Static IP for the ridiculous $15 a month do you keep your current IP or are you issued with another?


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  #2163608 19-Jan-2019 10:46
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pretty sure you are issued with another

 

and it should only be renewed, maybe not always, when your reboot your device




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  #2163609 19-Jan-2019 10:49
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Most ISP's will have a dedicated pool of IPs that are static, so you'd be issued one of those.

 

I refused to pay $15-20 extra per month for a static, found Voyager offered one for a one off fee. 





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  #2163611 19-Jan-2019 10:53
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Just use a dynamic dns service, costs nothing, pretty sure the spark provided Huawei's support several free ones, or you can run a client on a machine that's always on.

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  #2163722 19-Jan-2019 14:40
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With a dynamic IP your address will change every time your connection restarts. How often this is depends on the stability of your line. For some lines this is a day or so, others weeks or months. Static IP will never change.




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  #2163726 19-Jan-2019 14:51
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When I was with Spark, my IP didn't change for months, likely more than a year, I wasn't keeping track for that long though.

It didn't change with reboots or power outages either, I actively tried to change it at one point, no luck.

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  #2163727 19-Jan-2019 14:56
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NPCtom:

 

Also if you purchase a Static IP for the ridiculous $15 a month do you keep your current IP or are you issued with another?

 

 

Do you actually realise how much IPv4 costs a provider to lease from APNIC?

 

If you purchase a static IP, you will be provided with a new IP that will be static. But as others have said, just use a free dynamic DNS service like this


 
 
 

Move to New Zealand's best fibre broadband service (affiliate link). Free setup code: R587125ERQ6VE. Note that to use Quic Broadband you must be comfortable with configuring your own router.
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  #2163740 19-Jan-2019 15:23
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chevrolux:

NPCtom:


Also if you purchase a Static IP for the ridiculous $15 a month do you keep your current IP or are you issued with another?



Do you actually realise how much IPv4 costs a provider to lease from APNIC?


If you purchase a static IP, you will be provided with a new IP that will be static. But as others have said, just use a free dynamic DNS service like this


Big pipe still do a static ip address for a one off $45.




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  #2163741 19-Jan-2019 15:29
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robjg63:
chevrolux:

 

NPCtom:

 

 

 

Also if you purchase a Static IP for the ridiculous $15 a month do you keep your current IP or are you issued with another?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you actually realise how much IPv4 costs a provider to lease from APNIC?

 

 

 

If you purchase a static IP, you will be provided with a new IP that will be static. But as others have said, just use a free dynamic DNS service like this

 


Big pipe still do a static ip address for a one off $45.


 

That's their choice. They still have to pay for the IP space which is a significant cost.


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  #2163747 19-Jan-2019 15:44
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With people having an always on connection they’re constantly taking up an IP address.
Can’t see how static or dynamic would cost ISP any difference in that situation.

From memory my IP address rarely changed with Spark, I had to turn the router off for 10 minutes plus for a change - as once was trying to force change, forgot password and then remembered it.
Was blocked by IP as to many attempts, once IP changed password was accepted at a web site.

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  #2163748 19-Jan-2019 15:45
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NPCtom:

 

[snip] Also if you purchase a Static IP for the ridiculous $15 a month do you keep your current IP or are you issued with another?

 

 

If you think it's so ridiculous, there's plenty of other providers to choose from.


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  #2163812 19-Jan-2019 20:06
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andrewNZ: When I was with Spark, my IP didn't change for months, likely more than a year, I wasn't keeping track for that long though.

It didn't change with reboots or power outages either, I actively tried to change it at one point, no luck.

 

Back in the day it was sticky, like some other providers. Now its standard. Reboot,or lose connection, new IP. Static, it remains.


 
 
 

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  #2163814 19-Jan-2019 20:09
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rugrat: With people having an always on connection they’re constantly taking up an IP address.
Can’t see how static or dynamic would cost ISP any difference in that situation.

From memory my IP address rarely changed with Spark, I had to turn the router off for 10 minutes plus for a change - as once was trying to force change, forgot password and then remembered it.
Was blocked by IP as to many attempts, once IP changed password was accepted at a web site.

 

Who sets up the IP ranges? Who provisions them? Who resolves issues? Unlike Trump's nuclear arsenal, it isn't a red button.


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  #2163879 19-Jan-2019 21:42
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@tdgeek How long ago is "back in the day"?
My example was less than 10 years ago, I suspect 5-6 years ago. I left Spark around 3 years ago and I have a suspicion it was still the same when I left. Absolutely no evidence though...

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  #2163897 20-Jan-2019 00:14
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tdgeek:

rugrat: With people having an always on connection they’re constantly taking up an IP address.
Can’t see how static or dynamic would cost ISP any difference in that situation.

From memory my IP address rarely changed with Spark, I had to turn the router off for 10 minutes plus for a change - as once was trying to force change, forgot password and then remembered it.
Was blocked by IP as to many attempts, once IP changed password was accepted at a web site.


Who sets up the IP ranges? Who provisions them? Who resolves issues? Unlike Trump's nuclear arsenal, it isn't a red button.



I don’t understand your post. Whether it’s dynamic or static, IP ranges, issues need to be resolved either way. Same cost.

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  #2163960 20-Jan-2019 08:52
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Rugrat the routing for how static IP is done definitely different and uses more router resources and had other complexities. So there are good reasons why we don't give everyone a static IP. Even our sticky IP we used to use was an administrative nightmare.




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