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Topic # 13174 25-Apr-2007 20:24
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Hi all..

I have been browing aruond in this forum trying to find the configuration that I really "understand" and setup my new 3G PDA phone with Windows Mobile 5.0 


http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=40&TopicId=4958
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/vlive/vlive_specifications.jsp

I am a newbie to 3G/GPRS/Internet and been asking lots of friends and even vodafone stoer staff and they keep giving me mixed info... (vodafone staff points me back to their web site) . I looked at a few Vodafone NZ supplied cellphones and I got more confused (as some of the phones with VFNZ gateway sometimes uses proxy and sometimes don't)

what I really want to do is to configure my 3G phone so via 3G (not GPRS I think, as ti is slower) to enable me to brower the internet at fast speed and also get my email.

So far I can only get my email from my work's Microsoft exchange using Direct Push through Vodafone (I am not so sure it is going through the GPRS or 3G.. as so far all thesettings I found on vodafone vlive spec and even the msg posted in this forum said it is GPRS) so I got confsued:

Apart from getting email, I can't browse any web site :-( (which is very strange.. I thought I can do both once I setup the mobile phone) So I would like to post a message and would like to see if anyone using Windows Mobile 5.0 and help me on this so I can get my email and browse the web using 3G (not GPRS, correct me if they are the same thing, or at least the same network)

So on my Winodws Mobile I have the following settings:

- On the toolbar, it has the 3G icon....

- Under Start | Settings | Connections
Within there, I have Vodafone GPRS Settings and I have :
VF NZ Internet -> Using Cellular Line(GPRS)-> Access Point Name: www.vodafone.net.nz -> Username, password domain are blank
Use Server-assigned IP address and not use software compression or IP header compression (or should I?)

Did I miss out somethign and configure my mobile entirely wrong? or do I have to get a Vodafone Mobile Data account for that?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers
Ken








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Reply # 68464 25-Apr-2007 20:49
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hkan008: what I really want to do is to configure my 3G phone so via 3G (not GPRS I think, as ti is slower) to enable me to brower the internet at fast speed and also get my email.


Welcome to Geekzone...

If you bought the PDA from Vodafone it should come already configured and ready to use. No further configuration is needed.

Any device, if 3G enabled, will connect to the 3G network by default, and only fallback to GPRS if the signal is low or non-existant.

If you don't have a data bundle on your account you should still be able to access data services, but paying a much more expensive tariff.

So, the questions really is if you bought the device from a Vodafone store? If yes then it should be ready to use out of the box.

What device is this?







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  Reply # 68466 25-Apr-2007 21:21
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Hi

It is a very good news that 3G/ GPRS is automated and I am on the the casual data rate and I dont have to configure it;

I purchased the device from overseas. It is an O2 Atom Life, with Windows Moible 5.0 Reason why I not got the imate one from here because the technology (of the phone itself really, nothing with vodafone) is quite lagging behind and even the imate's models here are quite limited Anyway..

I thought I have done everything right in the settings, however I am not able to browse the internet. I can only get my email from my exchange through the same connection that I setup.

So far i can see some people using www.vodafone.net.nz  soem people using live.vodafone.com and some other peope using wap.vodafone.net.nz.. I am very confused now.

Is the VFNZ gateway makes any diffencce? (or it is really for PXT and MMS) only?

Thanks
Ken

 
 
 
 


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Reply # 68468 25-Apr-2007 21:39
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The devices sold with the i-mate brand are quite at the same level as the one you got, even with HSDPA...

If you can synchronise to an Exchange Server then your Pocket PC is already connecting to the Internet. If you try browsing to a site but get a reply with "Sorry page not found", then open File Explorer, browse to \Windows and tap on welcome.exe. Follow the instructions, soft reset the device and try again.

You should download VxUtil (www.cam.com) and use it to PING a server (such as www.geekzone.co.nz) to see details on your connection.

If you want to know more about the APNs, check this post for Vodafone New Zealand APNs. The live.vodafone and wap.vodafone are not the ones you need.











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  Reply # 68509 26-Apr-2007 08:00
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Thanks Alpha.

The welcome/reset procedure works.

> If you can synchronise to an Exchange Server then your Pocket PC is already connecting to the Internet. If you try browsing to a site but get a reply with "Sorry page not found", then open File Explorer, browse to \Windows and tap on welcome.exe. Follow the instructions, soft reset the device and try again.

After this procedure all my connection settings remain unchanged. So what does the welcome.exe exactly do?

Yes, the O2 Atom Life and i-mate one's both support 3.5G. Reason why I choose O2 over imate is that it has 1Gb ROM which I been long waiting for (as I do install lots of apps on it, like SQL Server Compact, Dictionaries etc. and the storage card just not fast enough...

although the draw back is that I have to setup everything myself. I noticed that O2 devices are certified in Vodafone AU. Wondering if even between NZ and AU, the 3G network are different? (I saw the long discussion on that topic...)

Cheers
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Reply # 68514 26-Apr-2007 08:35
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Good to know it worked... Welcome.exe simply resets some configuration information stored in a file - this file sits in the root folder and sometimes it's easy to delete it by mistake.

Fair enough about the 1GB memory (GB = gigabyte, Gb = gigabit). I'd love to have that much memory too on my Pocket PC.





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