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# 19720 27-Feb-2008 21:14
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It has happened x net has blocked access to a new zealand hub(sliverserver)to all of the xnet customers and a website (www.sliverserver.co.nz)....btw  www.sliverserver.co.nz is filtered from international traffic

i have rang the technical help line they have said we have not blocked it , but all the xnet hubsters cannot access that hub or that website no more ...

i want to know why ? or is this a start of a new thing of blocking access to websites/hubs ?

where is the justification of blocking it ? ?

please tell xnet


ps:there nothing wrong with his sever like all the help line guys keep telling me .








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  # 113425 27-Feb-2008 21:32
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How sure are you that there is nothing wrong with this server? Testing the server via http://www.selfseo.com/ping_test.php reports that the server is actually offline!!!

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  # 113427 27-Feb-2008 21:40
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if u got a xnet connetion u will not able to get it to it ..i am not making it up the guy runs the website has been told from his ip etc




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  # 113428 27-Feb-2008 21:42
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Server:  alien.xtra.co.nz
Address:  202.27.184.3

*** alien.xtra.co.nz can't find sliverserver.co.nz: Non-existent domain


DNC reports:
Query Time/Date21:42, 27/2/2008
Domain Namesliverserver.co.nz
StatusAvailable




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  # 113430 27-Feb-2008 21:47
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http://www.knossos.net.nz/checkdomain.cgi?domain=sliverserver.co.nz

Yet using a Comcast tunnel, the site works fine.




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  # 113435 27-Feb-2008 21:52
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Umm, I get

Additional information

(/) indicates an error that can potentially cause access to services to fail.

 

(/)No delegation for domain sliverserver.co.nz could be found in the parent domain co.nz.



If the domain isn't registered... you have a bigger problem.

My guess is either its a typo or the domain has expired.

Edit: did you mean silverserver.co.nz ?




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  # 113437 27-Feb-2008 21:54
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sorry guys it was      www.silverserver.co.nz/


btw  www. is filtered from international traffic

so them international ping sites will not work on it




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  # 113438 27-Feb-2008 21:56
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cokeman2:

It has happened x net has blocked access to a new zealand hub(sliverserver)to all of the xnet customers and a website (sliverserver.co.nz)....

i have rang the technical help line they have said we have not blocked it , but all the xnet hubsters cannot access that hub or that website no more ...

i want to know why ? or is this a start of a new thing of blocking access to websites/hubs ?

where is the justification of blocking it ? ?

please tell xnet

ps:there nothing wrong with his sever like all the help line guys keep telling me .



Maybe you could try spelling the domain properly? You are probably referring to silverserver.co.nz. Which works fine from an Orcon and an Xnet connection.

 
 
 
 


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  # 113439 27-Feb-2008 21:57
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cokeman2: sorry guys it was      www.silverserver.co.nz/


btw  www. is filtered from international traffic

so them international ping sites will not work on it


If they're blocking all "international" traffic then I suspect their method of doing this is flawed and possibly resulting in valid NZ IP ranges such as those used by WxC from connecting.



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  # 113441 27-Feb-2008 22:11
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there r 2 defernet sites sliverserver.co.nz and www.sliverserver.co.nz the www.sliverserver.co.nz is being blocked for xnet customers and the hub

"If they're blocking all "international" traffic then I suspect their method of doing this is flawed and possibly resulting in valid NZ IP ranges such as those used by WxC from connecting. "

the site onwer has blocked intenational traffic to his site not the isp ...but xnet guys cannot access it threw www.sliverserver.co.nz or the dc++  hub ......





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  # 113447 27-Feb-2008 22:42
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So, I am the person who has the server in question.

Basically I followed this up with my host. They denied it was at their end. I then followed up with Xnet, and so did my host. Both came back as Xnet had put a blackhole route onto my servers IP (210.48.72.60). I have since moved some of the subdomains, but www.silverserver.co.nz still points there.

I have a ticket with Xnet to get this resolved, however no one is willing to email me back about it.

I couldn't get a reason out of Xnet, but my host got an explanation. They were told that it was because I was running a DC hub.

The DC hub in question is really just a place for a bunch of old DC users to keep whats left of the community alive and a place to chat. When I first discovered the block placed by Xnet, there were 19 users in there, including me. It's nothing major at all.

All DC hubs have been removed from that server, and after contacting Xnet about it today, they promised someone would email me back based on my ticket number. I haven't heard anything, and the block is still in place.

edit: Oh and as stated above, their is filtering on the box to limit it to NZ traffic. Pinging from an international box / site may make it look like it is down :P

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Hi folks, just jumping in to back my dyslexic friend cokeman...
I see Phantom has joined in also but i'll add my 2 cents
i ran a tracert and this is all i get...

Tracing route to www.silverserver.co.nz [210.48.72.60]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 150 ms 120 ms 160 ms ip-58-28-15-31.wxnz.net [58.28.15.31]
3 180 ms 166 ms 211 ms ip-58-28-13-83.wxnz.net [58.28.13.83]
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6...


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  # 113450 27-Feb-2008 22:52
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heres a trace back to you sparx

traceroute to ip-58-28-15-31.wxnz.net (58.28.15.31), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 ip-210-48-72-35.iconz.net.nz (210.48.72.35) 0.443 ms 0.296 ms 0.336 ms
2 ge-0-1-0.air01-jcore.iconz.net (210.48.5.101) 0.444 ms 0.311 ms 0.336 ms
3 ge-0-1-0.sky01-jcore.iconz.net (210.48.5.1) 0.996 ms 0.494 ms 0.416 ms
4 ge-1-1.cat01-sky01.iconz.net (210.48.5.70) 0.461 ms 0.436 ms 0.336 ms
5 * * *
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9 * * *
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etc...


edit: This morning I received an email from Xnet saying they are investigating this and it should be resolved within 48 hours :)

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Hmmmmmmm. I can't access it now 9:02PM 28th Feb.

My traceroute goes nowhere

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.7.254
2 36 ms 34 ms 35 ms ip-58-28-15-31.wxnz.net [58.28.15.31]
3 35 ms 34 ms 34 ms ip-58-28-13-83.wxnz.net [58.28.13.83]

I can surf it fine on a Xtra connection.

Didn't know XNET were now joining Comcast in censoring the net. ideas and words are dangerous things, best we filter for the good of the people :-)





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# 113643 28-Feb-2008 21:07
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exportgoldman:

Didn't know XNET were now joining Comcast in censoring the net. ideas and words are dangerous things, best we filter for the good of the people :-)



I hope that was sarcasm....




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# 113644 28-Feb-2008 21:10
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exportgoldman: Didn't know XNET were now joining Comcast in censoring the net. ideas and words are dangerous things, best we filter for the good of the people :-)


They are not blocking ideas and words, but a file sharing service.

Neither you or I are privy of th reasons why the ISP blocked it. Perhaps they were asked to do it or received an order?

We don't know the whole story so you and I shouldn't provide judgement at this stage.




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