Either - depending on what you opt for when you order the UFB install.

froob: For a Vodafone UFB phone and broadband connection, the phone is delivered from the HG659 router. Some other providers, like Spark, deliver the phone from the ONT.

I don't understand why each ISP would do it differently. Seems to make most sense to have it delivered via the ONT across all ISPs so that you can easily switch without hassle. (And also use a non VOIP enable router if you really wanted)

hasole: Ok, i don't want to run the huawei. What options do I have? Run the copper over an ATA then QoS on my firewall

Hi there,

Our SIP works through the Huawei HG659 which is linked up to a jackpoint near the modem to provide life to the rest of the jackpoints in your home.

Please note, SIP passwords cannot be given out on Vodafone's part.

Thanks,

That's correct, you can use a third party modem without VoIP.

play around with the HG659, should be able to run in in client mode, as an ATA.

Generally simplier than trying to squeze details out of tech support, You probably have more chance extracting the details from the router itself.

r2b2:

 

froob: For a Vodafone UFB phone and broadband connection, the phone is delivered from the HG659 router. Some other providers, like Spark, deliver the phone from the ONT.

 

I don't understand why each ISP would do it differently. Seems to make most sense to have it delivered via the ONT across all ISPs so that you can easily switch without hassle. (And also use a non VOIP enable router if you really wanted)

 

It makes sense to use the ONT indeed for simplicity, less possible user error etc.

IIRC there is/was a bit of extra setup involved, so most isps just rolled their existing VoIP stacks and pushed it out to customers.

To your average customer, VoIP via RGW vs VoIP via ONT is exactly the same. - Given those who do HD Voice there may be a quality difference (but even that, we still dont have HD Voice crossing networks to make it worthwhile.)

A technician will install a jackpoint (if there's not an existing one nearby the fibre modem) and link it up to the rest of the jackpoints in the house in order to give them life.

r2b2:

 

froob: For a Vodafone UFB phone and broadband connection, the phone is delivered from the HG659 router. Some other providers, like Spark, deliver the phone from the ONT.

 

I don't understand why each ISP would do it differently. Seems to make most sense to have it delivered via the ONT across all ISPs so that you can easily switch without hassle. (And also use a non VOIP enable router if you really wanted)

 

Cost, and it means a single provisioning system for both dsl and fiber customers they need to develop and train people on, vs one for their routers on dsl, and another for each of the LFC's who have different back ends.

DarrynJ:

 

A technician will install a jackpoint (if there's not an existing one nearby the fibre modem) and link it up to the rest of the jackpoints in the house in order to give them life.

 

Is that a chorus standard?

i do fiber and its not part of the install process for us. (Wont mention which company)

Don't want to confuse the op or get there hopes up.

I had a play around with my HG659 this evening, and it was reasonably straight forward to get it to act just as an ATA sitting behind my third party router.

To do this, I disabled VLAN tagging on the WAN, removed all connections from it other than the phone service, then connected it to the network via WAN. It also makes sense to disable wireless if you're using it this way.

r2b2:

 

froob: For a Vodafone UFB phone and broadband connection, the phone is delivered from the HG659 router. Some other providers, like Spark, deliver the phone from the ONT.

 

I don't understand why each ISP would do it differently. Seems to make most sense to have it delivered via the ONT across all ISPs so that you can easily switch without hassle. (And also use a non VOIP enable router if you really wanted)

 

There are plenty of threads discussing the pros and cons of both solutions. Neither is better or worse than the other. Delivering via the ONT has some significant disadvantages, particularly if you're a provider who offers VoIP over UFB and xDSL as you can't provision everything from the sack stack easily.