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  #3419325 28-Sep-2025 11:29
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@Linux

 

my bad they are in process of switching to SA.

 

 

Yes, Spark is developing a 5G standalone (SA) mobile network, which is distinct from their previous 5G networks that relied on existing 4G infrastructure. In a standalone 5G network, the 5G radio network connects to a 5G core, creating a fully 5G end-to-end system that enables enhanced capabilities such as network slicing, lower latency, and new services. Spark is the first New Zealand telco to begin building this type of network, aiming to provide a "world-class 5G service" by using this advanced technology.    

 

Here's a breakdown of what 5G Standalone means for Spark:

 

  • A "true" 5G network:  Instead of "planting" a 5G radio network on top of a 4G core, a standalone network uses a 5G core, creating a fully 5G system from the radio to the core.   
  • Enhanced capabilities:  Standalone 5G enables new features like network slicing, which allows for the creation of dedicated, virtual networks with specific capabilities for different services or customers.
  • Improved performance:  This architecture allows for greater flexibility, scalability, and better performance for both consumers and enterprises, supporting applications requiring high speed and low latency.   
  • Future of 5G:  By building a standalone core, Spark can unlock the transformative potential of 5G technology, going beyond just faster mobile and wireless broadband speeds to support more advanced use cases. 





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  #3419327 28-Sep-2025 11:34
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@ajw that is nothing more than media hype put out by SparkNZ marketing

 

2degrees have also deployed the Nokia Redhat solution 5G core

 

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  #3419454 28-Sep-2025 13:58
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boosacnoodle:

 

Spark's customer support are telling me to turn off 5G on my handset so that my upload speed will improve... by using (their overloaded and congested) 4G instead - ignoring the fact that all the speed test results I sent them were already on 4G and that 5G is still anchored by 4G. Wild.

 

 

It sort of makes sense in some areas.

 

Most part of Auckland Spark either steers phone to either one of two sets of frequencies/technologies:-

 

(a) Old Huawei L700+L1800+L2300+L2300+L2300+L2600 (or combindations thereof) RAN equipment which can do CA of up to 100 MHz on supported devices. In some areas they have 120 MHz of spectrum avaiable which they load balance across -- as far as I know LTE devices can only do up to 100 MHz.

 

(b) New Ericsson(?) L2100+NR3500 equipment which can only do a CA of 95 MHz.

 

Maybe in your area it makes sense to force it onto 4G so your phone is using the Huawai equipment (supporting up to 100 MHz CA) which is in some areas still offering a better experience than 95 MHz of LTE+NR! However this assumes your serving cell has all the carriers -- there are still heaps of sites where it's L700/L1800 only so max 40 MHz so the Ericsoon gear will be better there.

 

If your phone is set to Auto 4G/5G your phone may attch to a worse L2100 signal to get NR3500 rather than perhaps a better L700 or L1800 signal.

 

The other issue is the way their network is set up means everyone is either on (a) Huawai equipment or (b) Ericsson and never both. If there happens to be a lot of 5G UE in a congested area then it's possible that the (a) Huawai LTE only network is lightly loaded due to only serving non-5G devices but the (b) Ericsson LTE+NR network is saturated serving all the 5G devices.

 

A mess IMHO. The only good news is outside of Auckland it seems to be more likely to be a full Ericsson set-up for all LTE/NR bands.

 

 

 

In comparison - at all 5G sites One/2degrees can use all avaliable LTE and NR bands -- e.g. One NZ Nokia sites provide any combination of L700 + L1800 + L2100 + L2600 + NR3500 providing up of 150 MHz of capacity to all comers depending on site config and UE support. 2degrees Ericsson L700 (or L900) + L1800 + L2100 + NR3500 sites provide up to 130 MHz (although for various reasons it can be less).

 

 

 

I'd still give Spark 4G a try, it's a reasonable troubleshooting strategy given their network design. But I agree it'd be worth checking out One NZ or even 2degrees to gauge whether their network is better where you need good data speeds.




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  #3419497 28-Sep-2025 19:58
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KiwiSurfer:

boosacnoodle:

 

Spark's customer support are telling me to turn off 5G on my handset so that my upload speed will improve... by using (their overloaded and congested) 4G instead - ignoring the fact that all the speed test results I sent them were already on 4G and that 5G is still anchored by 4G. Wild.

 

 

I'm not in Auckland.

 

 

I'm using an iPhone 16 Pro. If this is the way it works, then this will be happening for thousands of users. The iPhone is not exactly niche.

 

 

I don't even have 5G available in my area with Spark. I actually went to about 100-200 metres away earlier today from the tower with line of sight and got 7.84/0.09 Mbps speed, with 1100+ ms latency.

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  #3423391 9-Oct-2025 13:50
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Got the SMS message yesterday warning phone not compatible - Xiaomi Redmit Note 14.  Annoyingly has no VoLTE settings when it is supposed to - bought from PBTech/Xiaomi store a couple years ago.  Will search around for some hacks  else annoyingly new phone time or just switch to Skinny or 2D for another year or so before they follow suit.  


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  #3423397 9-Oct-2025 13:58
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jonb:

 

Got the SMS message yesterday warning phone not compatible - Xiaomi Redmit Note 14.  Annoyingly has no VoLTE settings when it is supposed to - bought from PBTech/Xiaomi store a couple years ago.  Will search around for some hacks  else annoyingly new phone time or just switch to Skinny or 2D for another year or so before they follow suit.  

 

 

@jonb 2degrees / OneNZ shutdown 3G in about 8 weeks as plastered all over the websites, SparkNZ is March 2026 so not that far off

 

Things to know about our 3G shutdown | 2degrees


 
 
 
 

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  #3423398 9-Oct-2025 14:01
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jonb:

 

Got the SMS message yesterday warning phone not compatible - Xiaomi Redmit Note 14.  Annoyingly has no VoLTE settings when it is supposed to - bought from PBTech/Xiaomi store a couple years ago.  Will search around for some hacks  else annoyingly new phone time or just switch to Skinny or 2D for another year or so before they follow suit.  

 

 

@jonb 2degrees / OneNZ shutdown 3G in about 8 weeks as plastered all over the websites, SparkNZ is March 2026 so not that far off

 

Thanks, I didn't know 2D also.  Will see if my phone can make 4G calls after December cutover on Kogan/OneNZ then.  Also thought Spark/Skinny was a way off, not just March :(


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  #3423399 9-Oct-2025 14:03
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@jonb When you place a call now does the handset display 3G or 4G? 


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  #3423400 9-Oct-2025 14:07
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it drops to 3G.. :/


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  #3423402 9-Oct-2025 14:18
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PB tech are telling you the dialer code to make it enable volte, its working on all my xiaomis but the really old one was having problems sending SMS with it on, but I have sent to a shortcode on the data sim and it went thru. That phone only does LTE on one sim because its so old, but I like the xiaomi dialers call recording so keep it for ringing businesses even tho its hopelessly out of date android.

 

The newer redmi and xiaomi fully work with volte on both sims after putting the code in and enabling it.





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  #3423404 9-Oct-2025 14:28
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richms:

 

PB tech are telling you the dialer code to make it enable volte, its working on all my xiaomis but the really old one was having problems sending SMS with it on, but I have sent to a shortcode on the data sim and it went thru. That phone only does LTE on one sim because its so old, but I like the xiaomi dialers call recording so keep it for ringing businesses even tho its hopelessly out of date android.

 

The newer redmi and xiaomi fully work with volte on both sims after putting the code in and enabling it.

 

 

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  #3423409 9-Oct-2025 14:40
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KiwiSurfer:

 

Where is this info?

 

 

👉 How to Enable VoLTE on Your Xiaomi Phone





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  #3423425 9-Oct-2025 15:20
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Thanks, that has fixed it 👍 showing VoLTE on status bar and stayed 4G when made a call

 

Was searching a short code previously to try enable but the one I tried didn't work.

 

Geekzone to the rescue.


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  #3424336 12-Oct-2025 13:52
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From Google blocks hack that let Pixel users enable VoLTE anywhere

 

 

Google’s October 2025 update has broken the Pixel IMS app, a tool many used to enable VoLTE and VoWiFi on imported Pixel phones in unsupported regions.

 

The app exploited a loophole that allowed it to override carrier settings, which Google has now patched and designated as a high-severity vulnerability (CVE-2025-48617).

 

Fortunately, a new workaround has been discovered to enable VoLTE in unsupported regions, but users who want VoWiFi must now either root their devices or wait for Google to officially expand carrier support.

 





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