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#175672 7-Jul-2015 21:41

So the story so far

Bought a Lenovo Thinkpad 2 Lovely little tablet

Has a version won windows 8 Pro

When I went to upgrade to 8.1 it tells me its an enterprise version and then a screed of information obviously put there to scare layman off

So How do I upgrade to 8.1 so that I can be ready for 10

The direction I gleaned from the info I s that I need to obtain a version of 8.1 enterprise then use a usb drive "Shudder"

Help suggestions directions greatly appreciated especially if you have overcome the issue yourself

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#1338926 7-Jul-2015 21:50

What was the version of Windows it came with new (check for a sticker on the base), It won't have been enterprise. The "layman" should never end up with an Enterprise edition of windows. Also I don't think you can use enterprise edition without a KMS, so don't be surprised if the licence de-activates after 90 days or so.

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#1338960 7-Jul-2015 23:24

lxsw20: What was the version of Windows it came with new (check for a sticker on the base), It won't have been enterprise. The "layman" should never end up with an Enterprise edition of windows. Also I don't think you can use enterprise edition without a KMS, so don't be surprised if the licence de-activates after 90 days or so.

The sticker on the back just has the new hologram thingy and windows 8 no pro or the likes.

I bet you cant treat it like a pc format it and start again with a full version of 8.1 I have plenty of those around.
But I imagine you would have all sorts of problems with the drivers etc.

Its a really nice little tablet I am wondering whether it will be worth talking t o a lenovo approved service agent to see what they charge for a rebuild but with windows 8.1

Its the sort of thing you need to be doing once or twice a week to know what you are doing so you don't end up with a brick!

I read an article that the TP2 really works well with 8.1 hence the desire to upgrade and get ready for 10

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#1338979 8-Jul-2015 06:15

TP2 does not ship with Enterprise

Someone bas obviously upgraded it and then flicked it off to you

It has a Win8 license key embedded in the UEFI

You can download the Win8 ISO, install the Lenovo drivers and then upgrade to 8.1

It is a nice tablet, feels great with rubber Lenovo coating, great digitiser. Just let down by the fact the CPU and eMMC are weak and showing their age now. The ATOM CPU is 2 generations old now (clovertrail, Baytrail, cherrytrail)

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#1339208 8-Jul-2015 12:28

Try this: https://github.com/christian-korneck/get_win8key. It will pull the key from the BIOS and I think it may even tell you the edition it is valid for. you just run it from the command line.

You can get enterprise without a KMS, but normally only through MSDN or the Microsoft Partner Portal AFAIK. I would be pretty interested to know where the person who sold it to you works and if his company knows the seller is using their keys.

There is no enterprise upgrade path without a reinstall to the next version. It doesn't come through a store or WSUS download like other Windows versions.

I would see if Lenovo can supply media or do a clean install.

Try Vultr using this link and get us both some credit:

http://www.vultr.com/?ref=7033587-3B

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#1339250 8-Jul-2015 14:24

Ahhhhh you two both make it sound so easy!!!!

and i suppose if you know what you are doing it is

So the saga continues

right or wrong it was suggested prior to your suggestions that I could (and I know I am may be not using the clever words) put a ISO version of windows 8.1 on a usb flash drive did that following strict instructions
then I have to change the boot up sequence

got into the bios but you need to be a supervisor to bring up the boot sequence to change by pressing the f12 key

which even after setting up the password access does not show

thought i had bricked it went it went into some sort of repair mode ECCChhh!

anyway we are back to square one as I cant seem to discover how to change the boot sequence

the annoying thing is of course someone knows how to do it in 20seconds.

The pain of not having masses of money to pay a tec to do it

of course if one has masses of money they wouldn't be buying cheap s/h tablets so they wouldn't have a problem!!!!

Don't you feel sorry for the lower classes?

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#1339251 8-Jul-2015 14:28

You say and I appreciate the comments

It has a Win8 license key embedded in the UEFI

wheres that and how do I find it ?

You can download the Win8 ISO

from where?

install the Lenovo drivers

which drivers and where do i get them?

and then upgrade to 8.1

once the above is done do you mean the usual way of upgrading just go to the win 8 shop and click on the upgrade?

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#1339253 8-Jul-2015 14:29

paulmilbank: Try this: https://github.com/christian-korneck/get_win8key. It will pull the key from the BIOS and I think it may even tell you the edition it is valid for. you just run it from the command line.

You can get enterprise without a KMS, but normally only through MSDN or the Microsoft Partner Portal AFAIK. I would be pretty interested to know where the person who sold it to you works and if his company knows the seller is using their keys.

There is no enterprise upgrade path without a reinstall to the next version. It doesn't come through a store or WSUS download like other Windows versions.

I would see if Lenovo can supply media or do a clean install.

when you say a clean install is that like when i have the win 8.1 on the usb drive and run the install from that?

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#1339257 8-Jul-2015 14:42

paulmilbank: Try this: https://github.com/christian-korneck/get_win8key. It will pull the key from the BIOS and I think it may even tell you the edition it is valid for. you just run it from the command line.

You can get enterprise without a KMS, but normally only through MSDN or the Microsoft Partner Portal AFAIK. I would be pretty interested to know where the person who sold it to you works and if his company knows the seller is using their keys.

There is no enterprise upgrade path without a reinstall to the next version. It doesn't come through a store or WSUS download like other Windows versions.

I would see if Lenovo can supply media or do a clean install.

Just had a look at that program you suggested and thats well out of my wheelhouse

I can get into the bios setup and it has various UDIA? something like that information and win 8 as type etc

is that the information I would need ?

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#1339260 8-Jul-2015 14:43

does your bootable USB key work on another machine?

i.e. is the TP2 at fault or the USB key?

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#1339262 8-Jul-2015 14:53

gnfb: You say and I appreciate the comments

It has a Win8 license key embedded in the UEFI

wheres that and how do I find it ?

You can download the Win8 ISO

from where?

install the Lenovo drivers

which drivers and where do i get them?

and then upgrade to 8.1

once the above is done do you mean the usual way of upgrading just go to the win 8 shop and click on the upgrade?

ISO download
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-nz/windows-8/upgrade-product-key-only

IIRC with the embedded key in UEFI you need to install 8 then upgrade to 8.1, but I could be wrong - maybe you can just go straight to 8.1, I'm on Win10 for 9 months now so can't remember

Lenovo drivers are on the web - install them or use ThinkVantage which should just install what you need
http://bfy.tw/hqV

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#1339264 8-Jul-2015 14:55

gnfb:
paulmilbank: Try this: https://github.com/christian-korneck/get_win8key. It will pull the key from the BIOS and I think it may even tell you the edition it is valid for. you just run it from the command line.

You can get enterprise without a KMS, but normally only through MSDN or the Microsoft Partner Portal AFAIK. I would be pretty interested to know where the person who sold it to you works and if his company knows the seller is using their keys.

There is no enterprise upgrade path without a reinstall to the next version. It doesn't come through a store or WSUS download like other Windows versions.

I would see if Lenovo can supply media or do a clean install.

Just had a look at that program you suggested and thats well out of my wheelhouse

I can get into the bios setup and it has various UDIA? something like that information and win 8 as type etc

is that the information I would need ?

just don't worry about Enterprise. Whoever sold it to you like that shouldn't have and you're not going to get it going with Enterprise, so you need to reinstall

If you bought it from a shop I would just take it back to them and make it their problem

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#1339271 8-Jul-2015 14:59

gnfb: Ahhhhh you two both make it sound so easy!!!!

and i suppose if you know what you are doing it is

So the saga continues

right or wrong it was suggested prior to your suggestions that I could (and I know I am may be not using the clever words) put a ISO version of windows 8.1 on a usb flash drive did that following strict instructions
then I have to change the boot up sequence

got into the bios but you need to be a supervisor to bring up the boot sequence to change by pressing the f12 key

which even after setting up the password access does not show

thought i had bricked it went it went into some sort of repair mode ECCChhh!

anyway we are back to square one as I cant seem to discover how to change the boot sequence

the annoying thing is of course someone knows how to do it in 20seconds.

The pain of not having masses of money to pay a tec to do it

of course if one has masses of money they wouldn't be buying cheap s/h tablets so they wouldn't have a problem!!!!

Don't you feel sorry for the lower classes?

if you get asked for an administrator password when in your BIOS you'll need to get the password

Otherwise this is how you change the boot order

When turning on the Tablet, press the Power button together with the Volume Up button at the same time to enter the ThinkPad Setup program.
Insert the USB Key
Select Startup from the Blue Ribbon at top of screen
On the Boot sub menu, select CD/DVD “Generic Mass Storage” and then tap “+/–” until the CD/DVD is shown as the first Startup device
Tap F10 to save the configuration change and exit the ThinkPad Setup.

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#1339274 8-Jul-2015 15:03

gnfb: Ahhhhh you two both make it sound so easy!!!!

and i suppose if you know what you are doing it is

So the saga continues

right or wrong it was suggested prior to your suggestions that I could (and I know I am may be not using the clever words) put a ISO version of windows 8.1 on a usb flash drive did that following strict instructions
then I have to change the boot up sequence

got into the bios but you need to be a supervisor to bring up the boot sequence to change by pressing the f12 key

which even after setting up the password access does not show

thought i had bricked it went it went into some sort of repair mode ECCChhh!

anyway we are back to square one as I cant seem to discover how to change the boot sequence

the annoying thing is of course someone knows how to do it in 20seconds.

The pain of not having masses of money to pay a tec to do it

of course if one has masses of money they wouldn't be buying cheap s/h tablets so they wouldn't have a problem!!!!

Don't you feel sorry for the lower classes?

also you could try reflashing the BIOS and see what happens

BIOS UPDATE UTILITY FOR WINDOWS 8.1 (32-BIT), 8 (32-BIT) - THINKPAD TABLET 2

http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/tablets/thinkpad-tablet-series/thinkpad-tablet-2/downloads/DS033365

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#1339284 8-Jul-2015 15:19

nathan:
gnfb: Ahhhhh you two both make it sound so easy!!!!

and i suppose if you know what you are doing it is

So the saga continues

right or wrong it was suggested prior to your suggestions that I could (and I know I am may be not using the clever words) put a ISO version of windows 8.1 on a usb flash drive did that following strict instructions
then I have to change the boot up sequence

got into the bios but you need to be a supervisor to bring up the boot sequence to change by pressing the f12 key

which even after setting up the password access does not show

thought i had bricked it went it went into some sort of repair mode ECCChhh!

anyway we are back to square one as I cant seem to discover how to change the boot sequence

the annoying thing is of course someone knows how to do it in 20seconds.

The pain of not having masses of money to pay a tec to do it

of course if one has masses of money they wouldn't be buying cheap s/h tablets so they wouldn't have a problem!!!!

Don't you feel sorry for the lower classes?

if you get asked for an administrator password when in your BIOS you'll need to get the password

Otherwise this is how you change the boot order

When turning on the Tablet, press the Power button together with the Volume Up button at the same time to enter the ThinkPad Setup program.
Insert the USB Key
Select Startup from the Blue Ribbon at top of screen
On the Boot sub menu, select CD/DVD “Generic Mass Storage” and then tap “+/–” until the CD/DVD is shown as the first Startup device
Tap F10 to save the configuration change and exit the ThinkPad Setup.

i get all the way to here
On the Boot sub menu, select CD/DVD “Generic Mass Storage” and then tap “+/–” until the CD/DVD is shown as the first Startup device
but that doesnt show up that s where its says press F12 to show boot menu but there is no f12 key to push it only goes up to F10 at the bottem

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#1339285 8-Jul-2015 15:20

nathan:
gnfb: Ahhhhh you two both make it sound so easy!!!!

and i suppose if you know what you are doing it is

So the saga continues

right or wrong it was suggested prior to your suggestions that I could (and I know I am may be not using the clever words) put a ISO version of windows 8.1 on a usb flash drive did that following strict instructions
then I have to change the boot up sequence

got into the bios but you need to be a supervisor to bring up the boot sequence to change by pressing the f12 key

which even after setting up the password access does not show

thought i had bricked it went it went into some sort of repair mode ECCChhh!

anyway we are back to square one as I cant seem to discover how to change the boot sequence

the annoying thing is of course someone knows how to do it in 20seconds.

The pain of not having masses of money to pay a tec to do it

of course if one has masses of money they wouldn't be buying cheap s/h tablets so they wouldn't have a problem!!!!

Don't you feel sorry for the lower classes?

also you could try reflashing the BIOS and see what happens

BIOS UPDATE UTILITY FOR WINDOWS 8.1 (32-BIT), 8 (32-BIT) - THINKPAD TABLET 2

http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/tablets/thinkpad-tablet-series/thinkpad-tablet-2/downloads/DS033365

I did the flash bios update
didnt seem to help :(

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