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#185530 26-Nov-2015 14:57
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The last time I started my computer a window opened asking if I wanted update to Win 10. Thee was only two obvious choices. Upgrade now or upgrade later.

I clicked the "Upgrade later" option and immediately Windows 10 started downloading. I wasn't expecting this so abandoned the download. 

Subsequently I got a message saying updates were available. When I had a look there was one recommended and six optional, one of the optional updates was the Win 10 upgrade. The Win 10 one was ticked for installation. If I had proceeded with the updates without checking first to see what the optional ones were Win 10 would have been installed.

Right now I don't see Win 10 as an upgrade, more like a downgrade for the time being. I don't want it yet.  I'll decide when it's installed.

I wish MS wouldn't be so sneaky and insistent in trying to get Win 10 installed.




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  #1435289 26-Nov-2015 15:27
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yep ive had issues with that.

ive hidden the update file and the KB but the update file keeps un-hiding its self

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  #1435309 26-Nov-2015 15:37
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also even though eveything is hidden when ever i install updates at the end of the instillation it says "your upgrade to windows 10 is ready" then has a restart button, always very dubious when that happens

 
 
 
 


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  #1435311 26-Nov-2015 15:41
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How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options

 

 

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351


 

 




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  #1435336 26-Nov-2015 16:12
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nathan: How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options   https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 


That's all very well.  As a PC owner I shouldn't need to know go through that process to prevent a process I don't want to occur. It is my PC not Microsoft's.

The process MS are embarking upon is invasive. I have the "Get Windows 10" icon on the bottom right of my screen. I'm quite comfortable with that. This should be as far as it goes. That tells me the upgrade is there when I am ready.

I don't need to be "tricked" into installing something I don't want right now. Trying to sneak the upgrade in as an update is a bridge too far.

Perhaps you can take this as feedback to those involved in orchestrating this process.




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  #1435338 26-Nov-2015 16:18
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nathan: How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options   https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 


I've just read that link and I'm buggered if I can see at a quick glance how to change the computer configuration.

The instructions are:

 

     

  1. Click Computer Configuration.
  2. Click Policies.
  3. Click Administrative Templates.
  4. Click Windows Components.
  5. Click Windows Update.
  6. Double-click Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update.
  7. Click Enable.

 


Where does one click on "Computer Configuration" to get started?






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  #1435358 26-Nov-2015 16:37
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Technofreak:
nathan: How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options   https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 


I've just read that link and I'm buggered if I can see at a quick glance how to change the computer configuration.

The instructions are:

 

     

  1. Click Computer Configuration.
  2. Click Policies.
  3. Click Administrative Templates.
  4. Click Windows Components.
  5. Click Windows Update.
  6. Double-click Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update.
  7. Click Enable.

 


Where does one click on "Computer Configuration" to get started?




edit the reg directly if you prefer

Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate

DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1




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  #1435362 26-Nov-2015 16:40
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Yes I saw that too.

But how does one follow those instructions?  The average user isn't going to want to do registry edits.




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  #1435369 26-Nov-2015 16:44
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Technofreak:
nathan: How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options   https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 


That's all very well.  As a PC owner I shouldn't need to know go through that process to prevent a process I don't want to occur. It is my PC not Microsoft's.

The process MS are embarking upon is invasive. I have the "Get Windows 10" icon on the bottom right of my screen. I'm quite comfortable with that. This should be as far as it goes. That tells me the upgrade is there when I am ready.

I don't need to be "tricked" into installing something I don't want right now. Trying to sneak the upgrade in as an update is a bridge too far.

Perhaps you can take this as feedback to those involved in orchestrating this process.


Hi Nathan. 

A lot of our customers feel this same way, what is the best way to get their voices heard?

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  #1435370 26-Nov-2015 16:44
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Technofreak: Yes I saw that too.

But how does one follow those instructions?  The average user isn't going to want to do registry edits.


the average user doesn't click no on upgrades for iOS/OSX/Android/Chrome etc either




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  #1435373 26-Nov-2015 16:47
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nathan:
Technofreak: Yes I saw that too.

But how does one follow those instructions?  The average user isn't going to want to do registry edits.


the average user doesn't click no on upgrades for iOS/OSX/Android/Chrome etc either


The OS upgrade on a PC is NOT the same as for a mobile device. 

It's a little unfortunate for you to keep drawing comparisons this way, wouldn't MS be better off listening to it's users instead of arguing with them?


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  #1435388 26-Nov-2015 17:02
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networkn:  wouldn't MS be better off listening to it's users instead of arguing with them?



never going to happen :-)
Just as they didnt listen with Win8 & the start menu .

I agree though, it is a real issue, people are restarting PC's only to find Win10 has starting installing without them wanting it.

And the fact that even when hidden, MS have made the notification KB unhide itself , is a disgrace .
The fact that you cant simply click, 'no thanks' on the Win10 notification (and have it go away) is a disgrace .



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  #1435392 26-Nov-2015 17:08
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Technofreak: Yes I saw that too.

But how does one follow those instructions?  The average user isn't going to want to do registry edits.

I believe you need to run gpedit.msc (I'm not on a Windows machine at the moment so can't double-check that).

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  #1435393 26-Nov-2015 17:10
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nathan:
Technofreak: Yes I saw that too.

But how does one follow those instructions?  The average user isn't going to want to do registry edits.


the average user doesn't click no on upgrades for iOS/OSX/Android/Chrome etc either


They have the option though, right?

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  #1435401 26-Nov-2015 17:19
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and what if auto updates are set?

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  #1435406 26-Nov-2015 17:32
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networkn:
nathan:
Technofreak: Yes I saw that too.

But how does one follow those instructions?  The average user isn't going to want to do registry edits.


the average user doesn't click no on upgrades for iOS/OSX/Android/Chrome etc either


The OS upgrade on a PC is NOT the same as for a mobile device. 

It's a little unfortunate for you to keep drawing comparisons this way, wouldn't MS be better off listening to it's users instead of arguing with them?



I agree.

I have retired my Windows PC until this mess is sorted. I have resumed used my iMac as my default machine.

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