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Have you considered violence?
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MichaelNZ:
Handsomedan:
Have you considered violence?
Even if the OP had a sympathetic case this strategy is sure to end badly.
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Handsomedan:
Come on. When did violence ever make things worse?
A recent high profile example:
Coromandel shooting accused pig-farmer Stu Edmondson granted bail, his lawyer says
He has gotten quite a bit of sympathy from the public but it still won't save him from a murder charge.
To be clear the OP's issue is not my conflict and I have no first hand insight where the balance lies between them and the neighbours they are complaining about.
So I am just offering from a distance a caution not to act in haste.
Go down that path and maybe someone could end up dead. If its pre-meditated (ie: planned) its a murder charge. Even if it gets reduced to manslaughter its still a long sentence.
So think it through.
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MichaelNZ:
Handsomedan:
Come on. When did violence ever make things worse?
A recent high profile example:
Coromandel shooting accused pig-farmer Stu Edmondson granted bail, his lawyer says
He has gotten quite a bit of sympathy from the public but it still won't save him from a murder charge.
To be clear the OP's issue is not my conflict and I have no first hand insight where the balance lies between them and the neighbours they are complaining about.
So I am just offering from a distance a caution not to act in haste.
Go down that path and maybe someone could end up dead. If its pre-meditated (ie: planned) its a murder charge. Even if it gets reduced to manslaughter its still a long sentence.
So think it through.
Woosh.
When it’s a good day, find some neighbour hood kids… play safe in a nearby driveway…and then casually roll a basket ball across the road when you know there’s a dirt bike racing down the street. Teach the kids to sprint to the kerb and stop.
obviously you roll that ball when said dirt bike is minimum 50m away.
Then, if the said people are working on cars in their driveway, casually walk past with some kids and have one of the kids exclaim, “hey are these the people who make too much noise” and keep walking.
works a treat….or so I’m told. 😀
There is next to no softly-softly steps that the Landlord can take.
Landlords are broadly framed as bad guys and are expected to shut-up and put-up with problematic innocent tenants (as documented in many threads on this very forum). The balance of power sits with the tenant - it is very easy for a well meaning Landlord to make a legal miss-step and be penalised by the tenancy tribunal. (This is why professional property managers are a fast growing industry and why LL's will hide behind them).
If you can speak to and motive the property managers or LL, there might be obligations in the tenancy agreement that the neighbours are breaking, such as people staying over, pets, parking, the official tenant no longer physically living there/subletting, modifications to building etc - maybe a neighbourhood peace clause if you are lucky.
The "No Fault 90 day evictions" was the only practical solution in many cases like this. It was deleted in 2020 leading to 5 years of this kind of hell for neighbours and LL's but reinstated in January this year. However this is the big gun for the bad cases and is not used frequently nor lightly.
No fault 90 day evictions comes with risks for the LL / Property Manager so hurdles impeding your case could include:
1) Rental vacancies are up - so they may be loath to ditch paying tenants lest it sits empty.
2) Rents are down on average meaning they could have to re-let at a lower price.
3) Property managers are overworked meaning a) they'll be loath to create work for themselves by evicting, and b) your case might not get the attention it deserves in the first place.
4) It is a lottery whether the next tenants are better.
5) If the place is a bit rough, getting it back up to rent-able standard will be an addition cost & burden to bring on themselves.
6) Unwanted media attention.
If people are reflecting on the issues at heart here, it pays to remember that kiwi's are great at making laws and very poor at enforcing them. Practically speaking an un-enforced law isn't really a law at all.
For example, these people are riding unregistered dirt bikes on the road. The cops could legally impound the dirt bikes, solving the noise, disruption and danger problem, but they don't. So practically speaking dirt bikes can be ridden (recklessly) on the the roads.
Police are encumbered by increasing and excessive legal bureaucracy which steals resources that should be doing practical enforcement. So police ignore trivial jobs (aka antisocial behaviour) and focus on the juicy big jobs - like manslaughter. They'll do nothing to prevent children from getting run over, but will vigorously prosecute the dirt bike rider that does the running over, leading to worse out-comes for both the victim and the would-be/eventual perpetrator.
Modern kiwi's no longer believe in shell-force or the greater good, so we need to rethink our approach to law and order.
tripper1000: For example, these people are riding unregistered dirt bikes on the road. The cops could legally impound the dirt bikes, solving the noise, disruption and danger problem, but they don't. So practically speaking dirt bikes can be ridden (recklessly) on the the roads.
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